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Online Richard Smith

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Re: Josiah Thompson - Who Was the Umbrella Man?
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2024, 04:59:15 PM »
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   You miss the Major Point. The ID of the "Umbrella Man" remains Unknown. Based on Witt's HSCA Testimony vs the Bronson and Willis images, Witt is NOT the person we see on those images.

That's the major point?  LOL.  How about this:  WHO CARES since it has absolutely nothing to do with the assassination?   What difference does it make if it is him or someone else?  There were many people standing on the street. 

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« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2024, 05:13:00 PM »
 

The umbrella almost blew out of Witt's hands, he's standing on a "retaining wall" (inner curb of sidewalk that hold back the sloping soil), Witt's umbrella had ten-ribs (like the one in the film; the loons said it was eight ribs for decades) and the facial measurements are exact. A co-worker identified him from a media appeal.

But never mind all that. Witt is some "official" explanation that "makes no sense". Marjorie Taylor Greene/Mark Robinson territory.

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« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2024, 05:18:53 PM »
That's the major point?  LOL.  How about this:  WHO CARES since it has absolutely nothing to do with the assassination?   What difference does it make if it is him or someone else?  There were many people standing on the street.

    We have an Unknown Eyewitness standing only feet away from the JFK Limo and your response is "WHO CARES"? I contend the FBI/SS knew exactly who the Umbrella Man was. They had NO Problem running down Bob Croft in under 24 hrs. Croft was a missionary that had a layover in Dallas during his railroad trip from Little Rock to Denver on 11/22/63. He claims he spoke to no one, yet the following morning the FBI was banging on his door in Denver and demanding his film. The difference between Bob Croft and Umbrella Man is that Bob Croft had taken photos of the JFK Limo as it cruised by him on Elm St. Umbrella Man did not take photos/film. "Who Cares"? This echoes the mind set of the FBI/SS.
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Re: Josiah Thompson - Who Was the Umbrella Man?
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2024, 05:23:18 PM »
 

The umbrella almost blew out of Witt's hands, he's standing on a "retaining wall" (inner curb of sidewalk that hold back the sloping soil), Witt's umbrella had ten-ribs (like the one in the film; the loons said it was eight ribs for decades) and the facial measurements are exact. A co-worker identified him from a media appeal.

But never mind all that. Witt is some "official" explanation that "makes no sense". Marjorie Taylor Greene/Mark Robinson territory.

  That photo of Witt is the one of him Sitting Down on the Elm Curb. He said that was definitely him. Witt was Not presented photos of Umbrella Man standing up with an umbrella in close proximity to the Stemmons Sign. He never was given the opportunity to ID himself as being that specific person at that point in time. The total ribs in the umbrella is nothing more than "noise". It is David Copperfield stuff intended to distract the attention of the viewer.

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Re: Josiah Thompson - Who Was the Umbrella Man?
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2024, 05:41:39 PM »
    We have an Unknown Eyewitness standing only feet away from the JFK Limo and your response is "WHO CARES"? I contend the FBI/SS knew exactly who the Umbrella Man was. They had NO Problem running down Bob Croft in under 24 hrs. Croft was a missionary that had a layover in Dallas during his railroad trip from Little Rock to Denver on 11/22/63. He claims he spoke to no one, yet the following morning the FBI was banging on his door in Denver and demanding his film. The difference between Bob Croft and Umbrella Man is that Bob Croft had taken photos of the JFK Limo as it cruised by him on Elm St. Umbrella Man did not take photos/film. "Who Cares"? This echoes the mind set of the FBI/SS.

There were many people standing on the street that day.  Many were questioned or interviewed.   There is no logical reason to believe this person saw or heard anything that others standing around him didn't.  In all likelihood, if he had something to contribute to the investigation, he would have come forward to the authorities as Brennan did at the scene.  None of that, however, has anything to do with why UM is a person of interest after six decades.  Some CTers want to link him to the crime itself as a participant in the conspiracy.  The takeaway is that makes no sense and he had nothing to do with the assassination whoever he might be.  As a result, his identity is a person of mere historical curiosity.  Would it be better if he and everyone in DP had been interviewed?  Sure.  The DPD would still be at the crime scene.  But the default to that, however, is not that there was a conspiracy. 

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« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2024, 06:32:19 PM »
There were many people standing on the street that day.  Many were questioned or interviewed.   There is no logical reason to believe this person saw or heard anything that others standing around him didn't.  In all likelihood, if he had something to contribute to the investigation, he would have come forward to the authorities as Brennan did at the scene.  None of that, however, has anything to do with why UM is a person of interest after six decades.  Some CTers want to link him to the crime itself as a participant in the conspiracy.  The takeaway is that makes no sense and he had nothing to do with the assassination whoever he might be.  As a result, his identity is a person of mere historical curiosity.  Would it be better if he and everyone in DP had been interviewed?  Sure.  The DPD would still be at the crime scene.  But the default to that, however, is not that there was a conspiracy.

  I do Not believe that Umbrella Man had anything to do with the assassination. But, it you are conducting a Thorough Investigation of the assassination of a POTUS, you certainly should want to know the ID of every single eyewitness. We also still do Not know the Official ID of the 2 guys standing on The Steps with Emmitt Hudson. ALL of these unknown eyewitnesses did Not have cameras. To the contrary, The Feds were all over anyone that had the ability to capture Images inside Dealey Plaza during the assassination.  Robert Croft being collared in Denver the following morning being a case on point.

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