T.F. Bowley, A Wind-Up Wristwatch & 1:17

[Bill Brown]

Well ok Bill , you are more the expert than I am, so There must be a fake image when you type in something like “Oswald’s line up “ in the search on the Bing browser , and then check images. Theres an image which has Oswald in just T- shirt flanked  on either side by 2 taller men wearing suit and tie, (I kid you not) and the no 4 guy at the end has a nice collar short sleeve sports shirt.

So that’s my mistake  about “suit and tie” unless  somebody else can confirm that image as valid.

 However, there is still  Gil Jesus examination of the line ups which cause some reason to doubt if all the witness would have chosen Oswald if there were 3 other men with disheveled look and a similar bruise or cut and ALL were wearing only  white T-shirts and all were the same age( no teenagers ) as Oswald.

And each witness separately view the lineup individually and without any knowledge of whom
other witnesses picked until after the lineups were concluded.

Zeon, your first mistake is trusting a guy like Gil Jesus. He's dishonest.

That "lineup" photo you speak of has most definitely been faked; it's not a real photo.

In the summer of '64, the FBI visited Perry, Clark and Ables (the three men in the photo) in order to get a photograph of them for no other reason than to record forever what the three men look like. That two of them (Perry and Clark) are wearing suit and tie in that photo only means that is what they were wearing the day the FBI visited them in order to photograph them.

Conspiracy Kooks who either don't know any better or are lying then take that photo and doctor it by placing Oswald among them, though Oswald had been dead for six months by the time the photo was taken.

[Martin Weidmann]

In which we learn that because a wrong like double murder was committed in the past it is not a big deal.  Poor Oswald.  So many people are still picking on him.  Hitler and Jack the Ripper must welcome this interpretation of history.  Everyone should just leave them alone and get over it.  It happened in the past.  HA HA HA.  Comedy gold.

In which we learn that because a wrong like double murder was committed in the past it is not a big deal.

Who said that?

Oh, wait... It's Richard claiming that.... must be something he just made it up. Par for the course, really...

[Richard Smith]

[Steve M. Galbraith]

The first report on the shooting by Merriman Smith/UPI was sent out by UPI at 12:34. Smith, riding in the fourth car behind the presidential limo, said after hearing the shots that he grabbed the radio telephone from Jack Bell, the AP reporter riding with him, and contacted the UPI offices. He gave his report to the UPI Division Editor, Jack Fallon, and asked him to read it back to him. Fallon said that due to the static on the phone he asked Smith to repeat it three times.

Next, UPI bureau Staff Editor Don Smith typed out the first bulletin while Fallon talked, or tried to, with Smith. The bulletin was then handed to teletype operator Jim Tolbert, who keyed the words onto perforated paper tape that fed the teletype machines where it then went out to the various news organizations around the country.

So how much time is that between Smith hearing the last shot, calling it in, connecting with his editor, giving his report, having it checked, and then going out over the teletype? Four minutes? Three? Two? If the Hertz clock was off it wasn't by much. Unless one wants to argue the UPI clock was also well off.



Story details: https://www.upi.com/Archives/2003/11/14/UPIs-Pulitzer-winning-coverage-of-JFK/4008667018804/

[Zeon Mason]

Well it might be possible to work out Oswald actually getting to his boarding room as early as 12:52 because it’s uncertain if he double timed jogged some parts of the distances traveled.

There’s only a slight problem with the 2 reporters McNeil and Allman who claim to have seen Oswald in the front lobby before the front doors were locked by DPD officer Barnett not later than approx 3 minutes post shots.(his estimate)

And that Roger Craig sighting of Oswald at 12:45.

However , Buell W.Fraziers 50 year late revelation of seeing Oswald coming up Houston st where presumably Oswald had exited the rear of TSBD , maybe establishes Oswald out of TSBD as early as 12:33-12:34

I’ll use the 12:34 time just to allow an  extra minute for Oswald to retrieve his brown shirt from the 2nd floor lunchroom , because he was only in his T-shirt when he was seen by Mrs Reid approx 2 minutes post shots.

The premise is that Oswald double timed some parts of each distance.
 
Trek no. 1 is from the back of TSBD to the McWatters bus 7 blocks away approx. Walking time was estimated about  7 minutes. Double timing parts of that  distance allows  Oswald to board the bus 2 minutes earlier at 12:39

Oswald sat in the bus maybe only about 3 minutes and then he got a bus transfer ticket from McWatters at 12:42. Then Oswald exited the bus.

Trek no. 2 is from the bus to Whaleys taxi which was approx 4 blocks distance. Double timing that distance could get Oswald to Whaleys taxi by 12:44.

Trek no. 3 is the taxi ride time which was originally 9 minutes by the WC time trial but that time has since been challenged and it’s possible Whaley could have driven faster , reducing that time to 6 minutes. So Oswald gets out at 12:50 5 blocks away from his boarding house.

Trek no.4 is the 5 blocks from Taxi to boarding house. Oswald double timed that in 2.5 minutes. He therefore enters the house approx by 12:53

How long exactly did Oswald stay in his room? It could be as long as 4 minutes . It’s possible it was only 2 minutes. Therefore  Oswald could have left the house by 12:55.

It’s uncertain how long Oswald lingered outside to be seen by Earlene Roberts. It could have been only 1 minute.

Trek no .5 is from the boarding house to 10th& Patton st. approx 0.9 mile distance. Oswald could walk that distance and just occasionally double time and easily arrive 11 minutes later at 1:07 if Oswald left the boarding house at 12:56.

So who needs the problematic DPD dispatch time anomaly? You can even keep the McWatters bus ride and the ticket as valid. Oswald gets to 10th and Patton by 1:07, as Markam saw, and Oswald shot Tippit at 1:08 and then fled  the scene by 1:09 before Bowley arrived at  1:10 and made the radio call.

Then the DOA 1:15 time stamp at the hospital works out perfectly too.

[Martin Weidmann]

The first report on the shooting by Merriman Smith/UPI was sent out by UPI at 12:34. Smith, riding in the fourth car behind the presidential limo, said after hearing the shots that he grabbed the radio telephone from Jack Bell, the AP reporter riding with him, and contacted the UPI offices. He gave his report to the UPI Division Editor, Jack Fallon, and asked him to read it back to him. Fallon said that due to the static on the phone he asked Smith to repeat it three times.

Next, UPI bureau Staff Editor Don Smith typed out the first bulletin while Fallon talked, or tried to, with Smith. The bulletin was then handed to teletype operator Jim Tolbert, who keyed the words onto perforated paper tape that fed the teletype machines where it then went out to the various news organizations around the country.

So how much time is that between Smith hearing the last shot, calling it in, connecting with his editor, giving his report, having it checked, and then going out over the teletype? Four minutes? Three? Two? If the Hertz clock was off it wasn't by much. Unless one wants to argue the UPI clock was also well off.



Story details: https://www.upi.com/Archives/2003/11/14/UPIs-Pulitzer-winning-coverage-of-JFK/4008667018804/

At least you allow for the possibility that the Hertz clock could indeed been off.   

[Martin Weidmann]

Zeon, your first mistake is trusting  guy like Gil Jesus. He's dishonest.

That "lineup" photo you speak of has most definitely been faked; it's not a real photo.

In the summer of '64, the FBI visited Perry, Clark and Ables (the three men in the photo) in order to get photograph of them for no other reason than to record forever what the three men look like. That two of them (Perry and Clark) are wearing suit and tie in that photo only means that is what they were wearing the day the FBI visited them in order to photograph them.

Conspiracy Kooks who either don't know any better or are lying then take that photo and doctor it be placing Oswald among them, though Oswald had been dead for six months by the time the photo was taken.

Zeon, your first mistake is trusting  guy like Gil Jesus. He's dishonest.

That "lineup" photo you speak of has most definitely been faked; it's not a real photo.

I agree   

[Michael Capasse]

I have used the photo and it's important to tell the reader what it is. A composite.
More so, because it demonstrates the stark contrast between the men in the first of several unfair & prejudice lineups.
These are the actual men that were used. The first one wore a suit jacket - and a collared shirt. another guy wore a red vest and
collared shirt. The last guy actually wore what he wore 11/22 - when he testified. They look very nice

Here is a better look at it - This was part of what Markham - Brennen and Callaway saw
https://jfk.boards.net/post/7689

"We want to be sure, we want to try to wrap him up real tight on killing this officer. We think he is the same one that shot the President.
But if we can wrap him up tight on killing this officer, we have got him."