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Offline Fergus O'Brien

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Re: Dr. Cyril Wecht has died
« Reply #56 on: June 04, 2024, 01:08:24 PM »
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firstly Mr Mytton you should concern yourself with your own image or reputation on forums such as this . the  manner in which you have behaved over the years and in which you still behave hardly shows you and the LN community in a great light .

secondly the image i posted as you stated correctly (unknown to me ) did not display , i have edited my post accordingly and corrected that . and NO the image i posted is NONE of the images you posted . which was rather part of the point i was making , which was that the image i posted shows the CORRECT entry wound location highlighted with a white mark on the back of the agents jacket .

yes JFKs jacket did bunch up a degree , certainly at times when he was waving , that is a given and not in dispute . Mr Speer can very capably make his own arguments , he does not require myself or anyone to do that for him . however you should have noted my comment did not reference ANY claim by Mr Speer , it was simply to show the readers what the commission , Specter , LN and it seems you did not want them to see .




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« Reply #57 on: June 04, 2024, 02:08:30 PM »
firstly Mr Mytton you should concern yourself with your own image or reputation on forums such as this . the  manner in which you have behaved over the years and in which you still behave hardly shows you and the LN community in a great light .

secondly the image i posted as you stated correctly (unknown to me ) did not display , i have edited my post accordingly and corrected that . and NO the image i posted is NONE of the images you posted . which was rather part of the point i was making , which was that the image i posted shows the CORRECT entry wound location highlighted with a white mark on the back of the agents jacket .

yes JFKs jacket did bunch up a degree , certainly at times when he was waving , that is a given and not in dispute . Mr Speer can very capably make his own arguments , he does not require myself or anyone to do that for him . however you should have noted my comment did not reference ANY claim by Mr Speer , it was simply to show the readers what the commission , Specter , LN and it seems you did not want them to see .


Seriously?

After being proven wrong, you try to insult me and dump all over Speer, very poor form!

Just be a Man and admit that I destroyed your endorsement and give me credit, then move on.

Thanks in advance.

JohnM


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« Reply #58 on: June 04, 2024, 05:39:18 PM »
  Just look at the very LOW Angle of that pointer touching the BACK of JFK. Now, place 2 Tall/Wide SS Agents on the (R) running board of the Queen Mary following closely behind the JFK Limo. Those 2 Large SS Agents standing atop the (R) running board makes that Low Angle BACK shot extremely difficult .  Plus, Elm St runs DOWNHILL. This places the Queen Mary at a Higher Elevation on Elm St vs the JFK Limo. This is Exactly why when sharpshooters are attempting to replicate shots being fired from the sniper's nest, they NEVER include a closely following car with 2 Tall/Stocky Men standing atop a (R) running board. 
  On, "The Men Who Killed Kennnedy" (1988) BBC Presentation, a 2nd hand account of shot(s) being fired from the rear on, "the horizontal" was presented. This "horizontal" shot(s) fired theory was supported in, "Unsolved History JFK, Death In Deleay Plaza" (2003). During the Wiegman segment, Wiegman detailed his climbing out of Camera Car #1 and then feeling the "compression" of a bullet on his face.
  And of course, Knott Lab Laser SCIENCE has already Proven that the SBT, "IS IMPOSSIBLE". This is SCIENCE vs a lawyer with a pointer and his slick yakety yak. Not a tough choice to make.             
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« Reply #59 on: June 04, 2024, 07:38:37 PM »
  Just look at the very LOW Angle of that pointer touching the BACK of JFK. Now, place 2 Tall/Wide SS Agents on the (R) running board of the Queen Mary following closely behind the JFK Limo. Those 2 Large SS Agents standing atop the (R) running board makes that Low Angle BACK shot extremely difficult .  Plus, Elm St runs DOWNHILL. This places the Queen Mary at a Higher Elevation on Elm St vs the JFK Limo. This is Exactly why when sharpshooters are attempting to replicate shots being fired from the sniper's nest, they NEVER include a closely following car with 2 Tall/Stocky Men standing atop a (R) running board. 
  On, "The Men Who Killed Kennnedy" (1988) BBC Presentation, a 2nd hand account of shot(s) being fired from the rear on, "the horizontal" was presented. This "horizontal" shot(s) fired theory was supported in, "Unsolved History JFK, Death In Deleay Plaza" (2003). During the Wiegman segment, Wiegman detailed his climbing out of Camera Car #1 and then feeling the "compression" of a bullet on his face.
  And of course, Knott Lab Laser SCIENCE has already Proven that the SBT, "IS IMPOSSIBLE". This is SCIENCE vs a lawyer with a pointer and his slick yakety yak. Not a tough choice to make.           


The angle to the sniper’s nest was approximately 17-degrees to the limo. The street angle is approximately 3-degrees to level. Here’s a marked up frame from Bronson showing roughly the slope of Elm Street (blue line) and the trajectory to the sniper’s nest window (red line). As anyone can see, the SS agents standing on the running boards are well below the trajectory of the bullets.




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Re: Dr. Cyril Wecht has died
« Reply #60 on: June 04, 2024, 08:39:07 PM »

  Really? (1) Where EXACTLY is the half open sniper's nest window? (2) I just put my protractor along that (line?) and it Failed to meet the "approximately?" 17% mark. Scrawling a squiggly line onna still frame does Not come close to proving anything. Yet, some of you wanna challenge Knott Lab Laser SCIENCE.     

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« Reply #61 on: June 04, 2024, 09:04:04 PM »
  Really? (1) Where EXACTLY is the half open sniper's nest window? (2) I just put my protractor along that (line?) and it Failed to meet the "approximately?" 17% mark. Scrawling a squiggly line onna still frame does Not come close to proving anything. Yet, some of you wanna challenge Knott Lab Laser SCIENCE.   


Yes, really!




The ~17-degrees is in relation to the slope of the road. It is also the same ~17-degree angle that is seen in the photo of the reconstruction demo in the garage (note the string on the wall behind them).

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Re: Dr. Cyril Wecht has died
« Reply #62 on: June 04, 2024, 09:24:50 PM »

  "String on the wall"?  Whatever this might be, it is Not SCIENCE.

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« Reply #63 on: June 05, 2024, 12:02:47 AM »
  "String on the wall"?  Whatever this might be, it is Not SCIENCE.


The two yellow lines encircle the string on the wall in two different locations. Do you see the string now? That string was placed by the surveyors using the transit which has the blue arrow pointing at it. The surveyors placed the string at the same angle as their survey showed the angle to be to the sniper’s nest window (less the 3-degree slope of the street) which equals approximately 17-degrees. The photo shows that the pointer is being held parallel to the string which indicates the pointer is at the same elevation angle as the path to the sniper’s window. This is very scientific and can be repeated today with the same results. The Bronson photo shows that the 17-degree angle places the path of the bullets well above the SS agents standing on the running boards.




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« Reply #63 on: June 05, 2024, 12:02:47 AM »