Cuba's Investigation into Mexico City: "It Was Oswald"

[Steve M. Galbraith]

Everyone accepts that Oswald defected to Russia.
Why not accept he just visited the Cuban embassy in Mexico?
What's the problem?

Not to be unfair, or too unfair, but it's the conspiracy mindset that some people have that simply has to reject everything the Warren Commission or government said. Doesn't matter what, doesn't matter how trivial.

Conspiracy believers can still believe that Oswald was framed, that there was a larger plan behind the assassination. He simply was ordered to go there by the conspirators as part of this grand scheme. That's what Escalante says. He says Oswald was an "intelligence agent" sent to connect/blame Cuba. Fine (I don't believe it). But that requires accepting that it was Oswald and not a double.

But they simply won't accept that fact.

[Jon Banks]

It’s incredible that Oswald physically visited all these embassies and other places that were under 24-7 surveillance yet no one has ever produced a single photo of him in Mexico City.

The only audio recordings of a person claiming to have been Lee Oswald calling the Soviet embassy was suspected of being an attempt to impersonate Lee.

And another witness, Silvia Odio, claimed Lee visited her home around the time he supposed to be in MC.

The above examples are why we can’t conclusively say that Lee Oswald visited Mexico City in September of 1963…

[Richard Smith]

It’s incredible that Oswald physically visited all these embassies and other places that were under 24-7 surveillance yet no one has ever produced a single photo of him in Mexico City.

The only audio recordings of a person claiming to have been Lee Oswald calling the Soviet embassy was suspected of being an attempt to impersonate Lee.

And another witness, Silvia Odio, claimed Lee visited her home around the time he supposed to be in MC.

The above examples are why we can’t conclusively say that Lee Oswald visited Mexico City in September of 1963…

What is your explanation for faking Oswald's visit to Mexico City?  It couldn't be to implicate Cuba or Russia in the assassination since absolutely no effort was made to make this connection afterward.  In fact, CTers often criticize the WC for putting all the blame on Oswald and not pursuing evidence of the involvement of third parties such as Cuba or Russia.  How did the conspirators ensure that Oswald was not in the presence of others in this time period who could later confirm that he wasn't in Mexico City?  If was Oswald was complicit in his own framing, why not just ask him to go to Mexico City and solve all these problems?  Oswald's defection to the USSR was sufficient to deem him a political nut.  No such trip to Mexico City was necessary for that purpose.  How do the conspirators get the Cubans and Russians to confirm that it was Oswald?  What evidence is there of the surveillance capabilities at these embassies that supports the conclusion that the CIA must have a photo of Oswald or his double?  Isn't it also possible that the CIA did take such a photo or have audio tapes confirming that it was Oswald, but after his death decided it wasn't worth revealing to the Soviets and Cubans the methods and extent of their surveillance capabilities by releasing that information?

[Jon Banks]

What is your explanation for faking Oswald's visit to Mexico City?  It couldn't be to implicate Cuba or Russia in the assassination since absolutely no effort was made to make this connection afterward.

Two possibilities:

A - To set Oswald up as the fall-guy in advance of JFK's assassination but also implicate Castro.

or

B - To use Oswald's manufactured persona to smear the Fair Play For Cuba Committee. Which would be a conspiracy but not directly related to a plot against Kennedy.

There's documentary evidence of the FBI and CIA's efforts to target the FPCC in the early-60s prior to the Kennedy assassination. His phony FPCC chapter in New Orleans and the bizarre events that followed are consistent with a potential intelligence operation.

In fact, CTers often criticize the WC for putting all the blame on Oswald and not pursuing evidence of the involvement of third parties such as Cuba or Russia.  How did the conspirators ensure that Oswald was not in the presence of others in this time period who could later confirm that he wasn't in Mexico City?

The descriptions of Oswald given by some witnesses in Mexico City don't match his actual appearance. And the interpreters who listened to his alleged phone calls to the Soviet embassy doubted that it was his voice.

It's possible that the real Oswald was traveling with potential conspirators when he visited Silvia Odio in Texas around the time he was supposed to be in Mexico City.

So the issue of Lee actually having visited MC remains far from conclusive like most things associated with the Kennedy assassination.

[Steve M. Galbraith]

They simply missed photographing Oswald going into the facilities. People fell asleep, incompetence, failures. As the late investigative journalist Edward Epstein said, "Sometimes the official story is a lie; but sometimes it's the truth."

This is from the HSCA/Lopez report (the compound here is referring to the Cuban Embassy and consulate). And yes, the Lopez report concluded that they "probably" photographed Oswald going into the buildings. Some CIA personnel said they heard there were photos taken or that they remember seeing them. But no photos were found. Why would the CIA hide them *after* the surveillance operation had been revealed? For what purpose?



They didn't have coverage on weekends, the coverage was only during the hours the facilities were open to the public, the manual coverage was, as mentioned above, spotty, the cameras would break down or fail.

Here is what the CIA claimed happened (Oswald first visited the Consulate on September 27).

[Richard Smith]

Two possibilities:

A - To set Oswald up as the fall-guy in advance of JFK's assassination but also implicate Castro.

or

B - To use Oswald's manufactured persona to smear the Fair Play For Cuba Committee. Which would be a conspiracy but not directly related to a plot against Kennedy.

There's documentary evidence of the FBI and CIA's efforts to target the FPCC in the early-60s prior to the Kennedy assassination. His phony FPCC chapter in New Orleans and the bizarre events that followed are consistent with a potential intelligence operation.
 

The descriptions of Oswald given by some witnesses in Mexico City don't match his actual appearance. And the interpreters who listened to his alleged phone calls to the Soviet embassy doubted that it was his voice.

It's possible that the real Oswald was traveling with potential conspirators when he visited Silvia Odio in Texas around the time he was supposed to be in Mexico City.

So the issue of Lee actually having visited MC remains far from conclusive like most things associated with the Kennedy assassination.

How does Oswald visiting Mexico City set him up for taking the fall in the JFK assassination?  If the intent was to implicate Castro, why was all the blame put on Oswald?  CTers criticize the WC and other authorities for not following evidence that might lead to other parties.  Here we are supposed to believe that someone spent months or years setting up this crime, assassinating the president of the US, covering up the identity of the real assassin for the purpose of implicating Castro, but then make no effort whatsoever to link the crime to Cuba after going through this incredibly risky undertaking.  They just drop the whole thing.  I'm not aware of anyone making a pitch to blame Cuba or Castro for the assassination based on Oswald's visit to Mexico City.

[Jon Banks]

People fell asleep, incompetence, failures.

 

By your logic, not only the CIA, but apparently Mexican intel, Cuban intel, and Soviet intel were "asleep" or their cameras were broken. If we're being honest, we know all these embassies monitored everyone who entered and left them and recorded all phone calls.

Either they all were incompetent, or Oswald wasn't there.

Honest question,

Do you believe spies are generally honest people who would never tell a lie?