A Closer Look…

[Dan O'meara]

The woman that Jerrry pointed out snaps her head to the right to look back over her right shoulder towards the TSBD in the span of 3-frames (or less than 0.164 of one second).

Agreed.

The man right behind her snaps his head from looking to his left to forward just about as fast as the lady in front of him.

No he doesn't. At no point is he looking to his left. He is looking towards the limo at all times.

JFK snaps his head to his right just after glancing to his left towards Jackie.

I literally just dealt with this. He is reacting to Mary Woodward and her colleagues calling out. I have provided evidence for this which you have, yet again, chosen to ignore.

JBC snaps his head to his right just after glancing to his left towards Nellie.

Agreed.

Rosemary Willis snaps her head to look back over her right shoulder towards the TSBD.

I have literally just dealt with this and, yet again, you have chosen to ignore it.
She is not reacting to a shot and I have provided evidence demonstrating this which you totally ignore.

Clint Hill snaps his head to his right to look at JFK as he said he did after hearing the first shot.

I've watched the Z-film a few times now and I can't see this head snap.
There is nothing even remotely like a head snap.
Can you provide evidence of this?

The man in the RR engineer’s hat that Steve pointed out snaps his head around to his right to look towards the TSBD.

Or he turns to watch the rest of the motorcade as he's lost sight of the limo.

The above are six similar head snaps that are all caught on the Zapruder film (hard physical evidence) that happen within 1.33 of one second of each other.

Hard physical evidence?
Of people just looking around.
You're also forgetting that the 20+ people who show no reaction whatsoever is also "hard physical evidence".

A lady appears to be jumping out of her skin then immediately raises her right hand to her mouth in shock.

No, she doesn't.
She's already running as she enters the clip.

Two men suddenly make major shifts in their positions in order to see towards the limo better.

Please explain in what world this indicates a reaction to a loud, explosive noise.

Jackie Kennedy turns to her right towards JFK as she said she did after hearing the first shot.

Already dealt with.
She is reacting to Mary Woodward and her friends calling out. I've provided this evidence. You have chosen to ignore it.

Nellie Connally turns to her right towards JBC.

Probably in response to Mary Woodward and co. calling out.

I believe that Jerry Organ has said that agent Ready turned his head to his right at this same time.

Ready is looking to his left then resumes scanning forward and left.
He stays in this position until we last see him in z207.
At no point does he make the right rear turn towards the TSBD we see in Altgens 6.
 

All of the above thirteen reactions are seen on the Zapruder film at the same short period of time. Ignore them if you wish. However, you are only fooling yourself.

There must be over 100 people shown in the Z-film.
Two or three turn their heads in the direction of the TSBD around the time you believe the first shot occurred.


I thought you believed a first shot in the z130's anyway?

[Charles Collins]

The woman that Jerrry pointed out snaps her head to the right to look back over her right shoulder towards the TSBD in the span of 3-frames (or less than 0.164 of one second). The man right behind her snaps his head from looking to his left to forward just about as fast as the lady in front of him. JFK snaps his head to his right just after glancing to his left towards Jackie. JBC snaps his head to his right just after glancing to his left towards Nellie. Rosemary Willis snaps her head to look back over her right shoulder towards the TSBD. Clint Hill snaps his head to his right to look at JFK as he said he did after hearing the first shot. The man in the RR engineer’s hat that Steve pointed out snaps his head around to his right to look towards the TSBD. The above are six similar head snaps that are all caught on the Zapruder film (hard physical evidence) that happen within 1.33 of one second of each other.
Other reactions that appear to be in response to a sudden unexpected loud explosive can also be seen on the Zapruder film during the same 1.33 of one second. A lady appears to be jumping out of her skin then immediately raises her right hand to her mouth in shock. Two men suddenly make major shifts in their positions in order to see towards the limo better. In the crowd on the other side of Houston Street one man appears to suddenly duck as he had already started to turn away from the motorcade. I will post a frame shortly to show which man I am describing. Jackie Kennedy turns to her right towards JFK as she said she did after hearing the first shot. Nellie Connally turns to her right towards JBC. I believe that Jerry Organ has said that agent Ready turned his head to his right at this same time.
All of the above thirteen reactions are seen on the Zapruder film at the same short period of time. Ignore them if you wish. However, you are only fooling yourself.

I will post a frame shortly to show which man I am describing.


I circled the man in red. I do acknowledge that the speed of his apparent ducking movement is exaggerated apparently due to some blurred frames skipped by Jerry Organ, who created this excellent clip. It also appears clear to me that Clint Hill is looking directly toward Zapruder’s camera (which is also toward JFK’s position) at the very end of this clip.

[Charles Collins]

I wish I could take credit, but that important discovery is yours. And thanks.

I am making a new animation more centered on Gold-Top Girl and found something new elsewhere that's odd.

I am making a new animation more centered on Gold-Top Girl …


Yay! Thank you very much. I am thinking that including showing her shortly before she enters the frame of your other clip might tend to show her sudden jump a bit clearer.   

[Steve Barber]

Agreed.

No he doesn't. At no point is he looking to his left. He is looking towards the limo at all times.

I literally just dealt with this. He is reacting to Mary Woodward and her colleagues calling out. I have provided evidence for this which you have, yet again, chosen to ignore.

Agreed.

I have literally just dealt with this and, yet again, you have chosen to ignore it.
She is not reacting to a shot and I have provided evidence demonstrating this which you totally ignore.

I've watched the Z-film a few times now and I can't see this head snap.
There is nothing even remotely like a head snap.
Can you provide evidence of this?

Or he turns to watch the rest of the motorcade as he's lost sight of the limo.

Hard physical evidence?
Of people just looking around.
You're also forgetting that the 20+ people who show no reaction whatsoever is also "hard physical evidence".

No, she doesn't.
She's already running as she enters the clip.

Please explain in what world this indicates a reaction to a loud, explosive noise.

Already dealt with.
She is reacting to Mary Woodward and her friends calling out. I've provided this evidence. You have chosen to ignore it.

Probably in response to Mary Woodward and co. calling out.

Ready is looking to his left then resumes scanning forward and left.
He stays in this position until we last see him in z207.
At no point does he make the right rear turn towards the TSBD we see in Altgens 6.
 
There must be over 100 people shown in the Z-film.
Two or three turn their heads in the direction of the TSBD around the time you believe the first shot occurred.


I thought you believed a first shot in the z130's anyway?

  Dan,

   Dan O'mera,

    Both President Kennedy and Governor Connally nearly simpultaneoulsy both snap their heads to their right.  Zapruder's camera also jerks at the same time, because something startled him at that point.  Most likely, the first  shot fired caused this, because Zapruder does this two more times.  Second time is just after the car is emerging from behind the Stemmons sign. Frames 226, 227, 228, and slightly 229 all are blurred as a result of Zapruder's reaction to the shot fire, circa 222/223, and frames 318, 319 and 320 after the fatal shot is fired

. It seems odd that Zapruder flinched at the same time the three sudden reactions occur within the limousine by both President Kennedy and Governor Connally.  Governor Connally never changes position until frame 223, after jerking his head from left to right circa Z 154 and this is when he shows first signs of being hit, and by the next frame President Kennedy is reacting.  Coincidence?   I do not think so. 

[Dan O'meara]

  Dan,

   Dan O'mera,

    Both President Kennedy and Governor Connally nearly simpultaneoulsy both snap their heads to their right.  Zapruder's camera also jerks at the same time, because something startled him at that point.  Most likely, the first  shot fired caused this, because Zapruder does this two more times.  Second time is just after the car is emerging from behind the Stemmons sign. Frames 226, 227, 228, and slightly 229 all are blurred as a result of Zapruder's reaction to the shot fire, circa 222/223, and frames 318, 319 and 320 after the fatal shot is fired

. It seems odd that Zapruder flinched at the same time the three sudden reactions occur within the limousine by both President Kennedy and Governor Connally.  Governor Connally never changes position until frame 223, after jerking his head from left to right circa Z 154 and this is when he shows first signs of being hit, and by the next frame President Kennedy is reacting.  Coincidence?   I do not think so.

Both President Kennedy and Governor Connally nearly simpultaneoulsy both snap their heads to their right.

Do you agree that after his head "snap", JFK starts waving and smiling at the people lining Elm Street?

[John Mytton]

Both President Kennedy and Governor Connally nearly simpultaneoulsy both snap their heads to their right.

Do you agree that after his head "snap", JFK starts waving and smiling at the people lining Elm Street?

I see both Connally's and both Kennedy's simultaneously all look towards their right and John Connally who knows what a rifle shot sounds like, has a very concerned look on his face which was not the look of someone happy to see his adoring public and looking at Mrs. Connally, she also appears to look back over her right shoulder and back towards the TSBD. Perhaps unlike Connally who was tuned in to the sound of gunfire, JFK like many others simply thought the initial unexpected sound was just a fire cracker, so while JFK did react, he continued to do his primary job.



Mr. SPECTER. As the automobile turned left onto Elm from Houston, what did occur there, Governor?
Governor CONNALLY. We had--we had gone, I guess, 150 feet, maybe 200 feet, I don't recall how far it was, heading down to get on the freeway, the Stemmons Freeway, to go out to the hall where we were going to have lunch and, as I say, the crowds had begun to thin, and we could--I was anticipating that we were going to be at the hall in approximately 5 minutes from the time we turned on Elm Street.
We had just made the turn, well, when I heard what I thought was a shot. I heard this noise which I immediately took to be a rifle shot. I instinctively turned to my right because the sound appeared to come from over my right shoulder...

JohnM

[Steve Barber]

Both President Kennedy and Governor Connally nearly simpultaneoulsy both snap their heads to their right.

Do you agree that after his head "snap", JFK starts waving and smiling at the people lining Elm Street?

 Yes, but if you freeze the frame at 161, look at the startled expression on his face. In the frames that follow, he then begins smiling at the girls on the sidewalk, more than likely because he pobably thought it was a firecracker.  Meanwhile, John Connally has a veryy stern look on his face, is not waving, rather, he sits there motionless.  He told the WC he heard a shot and knew it was a rifleshot. You cannot ignore the jerk of Zapruder's camera, either. 

[John Mytton]

Yes, but if you freeze the frame at 161, look at the startled expression on his face. In the frames that follow, he then begins smiling at the girls on the sidewalk, more than likely because he pobably thought it was a firecracker.  Meanwhile, John Connally has a veryy stern look on his face, is not waving, rather, he sits there motionless.  He told the WC he heard a shot and knew it was a rifleshot. You cannot ignore the jerk of Zapruder's camera, either.

Hey Steve, I hope you are well!

I totally agree with your observations.

Zapruder's vertical camera jerks at the time of the confirmed shots and working backwards, the head shot, the SBF and then the first shot, to me, are self explanatory.



JohnM