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Online Richard Smith

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Re: So long Joe!
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2024, 01:45:09 PM »
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How desperate are the Dems?  They are rolling out the lie that Trump or the 2025 Project will cut Social Security.  This is a demonstrable lie as confirmed even by leftist CNN, but it keeps getting repeated by Cacklin' Kamala and her propaganda machine.

CNN:

One of Harris’ claims about Project 2025 is false, while another is at least misleading. The Project 2025 document does not show that Trump intends to cut Social Security; the document barely discusses Social Security at all and does not propose cutsto the program. In addition, contrary to Harris’ suggestion, Project 2025 does not call to “end” the Affordable Care Act or eliminate its protections for people with pre-existing conditions.
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Offline Jerry Organ

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Re: So long Joe!
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2024, 04:15:12 PM »
How desperate are the Dems?  They are rolling out the lie that Trump or the 2025 Project will cut Social Security.  This is a demonstrable lie as confirmed even by leftist CNN, but it keeps getting repeated by Cacklin' Kamala and her propaganda machine.

CNN:

One of Harris’ claims about Project 2025 is false, while another is at least misleading. The Project 2025 document does not show that Trump intends to cut Social Security; the document barely discusses Social Security at all and does not propose cutsto the program. In addition, contrary to Harris’ suggestion, Project 2025 does not call to “end” the Affordable Care Act or eliminate its protections for people with pre-existing conditions.

Wonder if any Republican media sources ever "fact-checked" Old Duck? The reverse was true, as when Fox News repeated Trump's election lies, that is until the Dominion Lawsuit put them on the right path.

But since you're open to CNN fact checks, how about these?



Fact check: Trump makes more than 20 false claims in RNC acceptance speech

(Some excerpts)

Trump claimed that there is record inflation under President Joe Biden.
   Trump’s claim is false. The current inflation rate, 3% in June 2024, is nowhere near the all-time record of 23.7%, set in 1920.

Trump’s misleading claim about North Korean missile launches during his presidency.
   While missile launches did pause from North Korea for a period of time during his administration, they started up again before he left office.

Donald Trump’s misleading claim that federal judge ruled case against him was ‘unconstitutional’.
   Trump’s claim is misleading. District Judge Aileen Cannon wrote in her ruling that the appointment of special counsel Jack Smith, who was prosecuting the case, violated the Constitution. But Cannon specifically did not comment on the validity of the charges Trump was facing, or whether Trump’s alleged mishandling of classified documents was proper.

"Democrats are going to destroy Social Security and Medicare because all of these people by the millions are coming in – they’re going to be on Social Security and Medicare and other things, and you’re not able to afford it. They are destroying your Social Security and your Medicare."
   Trump is wrong. In fact, the opposite is true, particularly in the near term, multiple experts say. Many undocumented immigrants work, which means they pay much-needed payroll taxes, and this bolsters the Social Security and Medicare trust funds and extends their solvency. Immigrants who are working legally typically won’t collect benefits for many years. As for those who are undocumented, some are working under fake Social Security numbers, so they are paying payroll taxes but don’t qualify to collect benefits.

Trump claims government hired 88,000 IRS agents.
   This claim is false. The Inflation Reduction Act – which Congress passed in 2022 without any Republican votes – provided an about $80 billion, 10-year investment to the IRS. The agency plans to hire tens of thousands of IRS employees with that money – but only some will be IRS agents who conduct audits and investigations. Many people will be hired for non-agent roles, such as customer service representatives. And a significant number of the hires are expected to fill the vacant posts left by retirements and other attrition, not take newly created positions.

“This is the only administration that said, ‘We’re gonna raise your taxes by four times what you’re paying now.’”
   Biden has not proposed quadrupling Americans’ taxes, and there has never been any indication that he is seeking to do so. ... Biden has promised not to raise taxes by even a cent for anyone making under $400,000 per year.

Trump’s claim on the situation before the ‘Right to Try’ law. “Sounds simple, but it’s not, and I got them to agree that somebody that needs it will –  instead of going to Asia or Europe or some place – or if you have no money, going home and dying,” he said.
   This is misleading. It is not true that terminally ill patients would simply have to go home and die without any access to experimental medications or would have to go to foreign countries seeking such treatments until Trump signed the Right to Try. Prior to the law, patients had to ask the federal government for permission to access experimental medications – but the government almost always said yes. Scott Gottlieb, who served as Trump’s FDA commissioner, told Congress in 2017 that the FDA had approved 99% of patient requests under its own “expanded access” program.

“And we also left $85 billion dollars’ worth of military equipment.” (in Afghanistan in 2021).
   Trump’s $85 billion figure is false. While a significant quantity of military equipment that had been provided by the US to Afghan forces was indeed abandoned to the Taliban upon the US withdrawal, the Defense Department has estimated that this equipment had been worth about $7.1 billion – a chunk of the roughly $18.6 billion worth of equipment provided to Afghan forces between 2005 and 2021. And some of the equipment left behind was rendered inoperable before US forces withdrew.

Trump’s evidence-free claim on immigration.
   There is no evidence for Trump’s claim that jails around the world are being emptied out so that prisoners can travel to the US as migrants, nor for his claim that foreign governments are also emptying out mental health facilities for this purpose. Last year, Trump’s campaign was unable to provide any evidence for his narrower claim at the time that South American countries in particular were emptying their mental health facilities to somehow dump patients upon the US.

Trump’s false claim on US crime statistics.
   Trump’s claim about a dramatic increase in the crime rate is false. Official data published by the FBI shows violent crime dropped significantly in the US in 2023 and in the first quarter of 2024, though there were increases in some communities; violent crime is now lower than it was in 2020, President Donald Trump’s last calendar year in office.

Trump makes claims about grocery prices rising under Biden.
   Trump’s claims of grocery prices being up 57% are false and could use some context. Through the 12 months that ended in June, overall food and grocery prices were up just 2.2% and 1.1%, respectively.

Trump’s misleading claim about energy independence. Former President Donald Trump claimed that the US was “energy independent” during his presidency but that this changed under President Joe Biden.
   This is misleading. “Energy independent” is a political phrase, not a literal phrase, that can be defined in various ways – and, under Biden, the US has continued to satisfy the same definitions it satisfied under Trump. US production of oil and gas have set records under Biden.   “Energy independent” doesn’t mean the US uses no foreign energy or that it is untethered from global energy markets; this wasn’t the case under Trump and still isn’t under Biden. Experts in energy policy tend to scoff at the term “energy independence,” with three experts telling CNN in 2022 that it is a “horrible term,” “ridiculous term” and “stupid term,” respectively.   But if the term is defined as the US exporting more crude oil and petroleum products than it imported, that has happened in every year under Biden after happening under Trump in 2020 for the first time in decades. (In fact, the US surplus in petroleum trade has grown under Biden as US crude oil production and exports have hit new highs) And if the term is defined as the US producing more energy than it consumes, that has also continued to happen under Biden after happening under Trump in 2019 for the first time in decades.   You can read here about the various economic reasons the US has imported foreign energy under both Trump and Biden despite its so-called “energy independence.”

Trump’s false claim on his tax cuts.
   This is false. Analyses have found that Trump’s 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was not the largest in history, either in percentage of gross domestic product or inflation-adjusted dollars.   The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, a nonprofit, found in 2017 that the framework for the Trump tax cuts would be the fourth largest since 1940 in inflation-adjusted dollars and the eighth largest since 1918 as a percentage of gross domestic product.

Trump’s false claim US had ‘no’ inflation during his presidency.
   Trump’s comment is false. Inflation was low, but not nothing.

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Re: So long Joe!
« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2024, 10:25:40 PM »
The political news gets bleaker and bleaker for the failed leftist politicians.  Old Joe is gone due to his horrible poll numbers.  Even in Canada, the leftist Trudeau is sinking like the Titanic.  Maybe results still matter to some folks.  This sounds familiar:


Politico:
If you think Biden has troubles, just look at Trudeau

OTTAWA — Justin Trudeau is running out of time.

He has trailed in polls by double digits for nearly a year, and the outlook for the once popular prime minister is so grim that some old guard Liberals have been grumbling that maybe he should just step down and give someone else a shot.

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Re: So long Joe!
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2024, 11:37:36 PM »
The political news gets bleaker and bleaker for the failed leftist politicians.  Old Joe is gone due to his horrible poll numbers.  Even in Canada, the leftist Trudeau is sinking like the Titanic.  Maybe results still matter to some folks.  This sounds familiar:

Politico:
If you think Biden has troubles, just look at Trudeau

OTTAWA — Justin Trudeau is running out of time.

He has trailed in polls by double digits for nearly a year, and the outlook for the once popular prime minister is so grim that some old guard Liberals have been grumbling that maybe he should just step down and give someone else a shot.

Sounds like this: "JD Vance is giving Republicans buyer’s remorse"; "Vance’s rough week raises doubts over Trump’s running mate"; "Donald Trump's Women Problem Has Gotten Worse"; "Republican Predicts Excuse Donald Trump Could Use to Replace JD Vance"; "JD Vance Struggling In Polls After Trump VP Nod"; "I Hope Trump Kept the Receipt"



I wonder how many of the other leaders in Canada JD Vance would like to see replaced?
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"He may imagine himself as an American Xi Jinping,
the Chinese dictator he routinely praises" -- The Atlantic)
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Re: So long Joe!
« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2024, 04:06:25 AM »
If Trump does not drop Flipper Vance, and do so soon, it will be a big mistake.

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Re: So long Joe!
« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2024, 01:53:08 PM »
Old Joe is on his way out the door.   Is he spending his final days in office addressing record inflation created by his disastrous spending?  No.  Is he addressing record crime resulting from soft on crime policies?  No.  Is he working to close the border after Cacklin' Kamala failed miserably in her only task?  No.  He is trying to reform the Supreme Court because the Dems don't like any check on their power.  Old Joe, a career politician with 50 plus years in office, is ironically suggesting term limits for Supreme Court justices.   You can't make that hypocrisy up.  Old Joe and his crime family acquired millions in corruption over his lifetime but he wants to force out law abiding members of the government.   Imagine if Trump had proposed "reforming" the Court for his own political purposes.  The leftist media would be proclaiming him a dictator.  But nary a peep for Old Joe's power play. 

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« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2024, 01:59:03 PM »
Sounds like this: "JD Vance is giving Republicans buyer’s remorse"; "Vance’s rough week raises doubts over Trump’s running mate"; "Donald Trump's Women Problem Has Gotten Worse"; "Republican Predicts Excuse Donald Trump Could Use to Replace JD Vance"; "JD Vance Struggling In Polls After Trump VP Nod"; "I Hope Trump Kept the Receipt"



I wonder how many of the other leaders in Canada JD Vance would like to see replaced?
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( "In four years, you don't have to vote again" -- Old Duck the Felon
"He’s telegraphing his authoritarian intentions in plain sight."
"He may imagine himself as an American Xi Jinping,
the Chinese dictator he routinely praises" -- The Atlantic)

Cacklin' Kamala was "educated" in Canada.  Not a great endorsement for the Canadian education system since she is dumb as a rock.  It explains a lot, though.  What a year for "Blackface" Trudeau and Canada.  Trudeau's own wife left him.  He gave a standing ovation to a former Nazi - and not an imaginary one - but an actual WWII Nazi.  Canada has disgraced itself at the Olympics trying to cheat.  The country has burned to the ground several times.  And Blackface Trudeau's poll numbers are even worse than Old Joe.  Canada hasn't even sniffed a Stanley Cup in decades.  The expectations for Canada are always low but even so things are at rock bottom.

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Re: So long Joe!
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2024, 04:02:21 PM »
Cacklin' Kamala was "educated" in Canada.  Not a great endorsement for the Canadian education system since she is dumb as a rock.  It explains a lot, though.

Still doesn't explain why Canadians and Europeans are way more educated than Americans. Maybe because you only study sanitized American history and promote "smart" sports like football, marching bands and cheer-leading.

    "Canada, with 56.27% of its population aged 25 to 64 having
     completed tertiary education, ranks as the most educated
     country according to OECD 2018 data."
          (South Korea has since gone ahead by 3 points, largely from 25-34 year-olds)

Top 10 Smartest Countries Based on Students' Test Scores in Reading, Math and Science (2022): the only Western Hemisphere country to make the list was, gosh, Canada

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What a year for "Blackface" Trudeau and Canada.  Trudeau's own wife left him.  He gave a standing ovation to a former Nazi - and not an imaginary one - but an actual WWII Nazi.  Canada has disgraced itself at the Olympics trying to cheat.  The country has burned to the ground several times.  And Blackface Trudeau's poll numbers are even worse than Old Joe.  Canada hasn't even sniffed a Stanley Cup in decades.  The expectations for Canada are always low but even so things are at rock bottom.

Have you figured out what state you were raised in and currently reside in yet? So we can figure where your idiotic support of Kountry-Klub Racist Old Ducky comes from.

Americans are more concerned about Der Trump's 10-percent tariffs on all imports, and what it would mean for now-falling inflation. Grocery prices aren't up 57%, as claimed by Old (Orange-) Yeller. The fact, as stated earlier, is that in the 12 months that ended in June, overall food and grocery prices were up just 2.2% and 1.1%, respectively. America is now a net importer of food, so prices for food (and fast food, etc.) will go up. America doesn't enough of the heavy crude deposits necessary for most of its refineries, so it has to be imported, 60% of it from Canada. That crude can be mixed with the lighter American oil to extend the US supply. A 10-percent tariff on worldwide heavy crude imports would mean higher energy and transportation costs.

Economists predict Trump's tariffs will cost the average American household $1500 to $2300 annually. Retaliatory tariffs will bring US manufactured goods exports to its knees; those countries will turn to Europe, India and China. If Trump implements his targeted 60 percent tariff on China, that will add another $2000 cost to the average American household (none of it felt by Trump elites or the higher-ups in big corporations; they're be transferring even more wealth from the average American into their Scrooge-McDuck coffers.) Did someone say Duck?

The lower the income, the more the Trump tariffs will be shouldered; the elites at the Trump resorts won't even notice it. Nor will mega donors like banking heir Timothy Mellon (he's against food stamps, the nutrition program for women and infants, healthcare access for the poor, and thinks black people "became even more belligerent and unwilling to pitch in to improve their own situations") and Elon Musk.

Labor and the non-racist Working Joes see the tariff threat. They know what's it means to work hard and not have chunks of your hard-earned income disappear into the hands of the Trump elite class, or have their manufacturing jobs disappear. They know the Dreamers and the vast majority of migrants are human beings here to get a chance at honest work, like the chance they were given. The Average Joes know its important to have access to healthcare when you're between jobs or your company doesn't have a private plan.

All Trump offers are grievances nobody outside his declining base buys into.

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Re: So long Joe!
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