Joe Biden's Legacy

[Joe Elliott]

Joe Elliott July 27:   "The object that struck Trump was not a bullet. It was a fragment of debris that was propelled by the bullet."  You are having as much trouble keeping your story straight as Kamala.  Maybe invest in a teleprompter and hire Obama's speech writer.

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The FBI said it was a bullet or a bullet fragment. And they didn't find non bullet fragments on the stage, they found fragments of a bullet. So I have "changed my story". And I will change my story again if the FBI finally rules that it was a bullet. But I doubt this will happen because Trump should have lost his hearing in his right ear and would not have been almost immediately released by the doctors if he was struck in the ear by a bullet, even a grazing bullet. But I await their report.

My "story" does not always stay "straight", that is always stay the same. It is affected by new evidence.

[Andrew Mason]

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But I doubt this will happen because Trump should have lost his hearing in his right ear and would not have been almost immediately released by the doctors if he was struck in the ear by a bullet, even a grazing bullet. But I await their report.

The supersonic shock wave does not deliver much energy. If the 10 gram bullet traveling at 1000 m/s loses on the order of 1 m/s per m of travel the energy imparted per m is:
1/2 m(v²-(v-1)²)=1/2 m(2v-1)=m(v-.5)=10 joules. And that is distributed in a cone over an entire metre. His ear opening is maybe 1cm and on one side of the cone. So the energy reaching the ear is 1/200th of that or .05J.  And the bullet would have to pass over the ear canal to impart some of that energy to the ear drum. In this case, the bullet passed an inch or so above the ear canal because it struck the upper part of the outer ear. 

What evidence is there that a bullet shock wave event applied directly over the ear canal will cause hearing loss ie. break an ear drum?

[Richard Smith]

The superficial graze wasn't "a near death gun shot to the head". It was skin-deep in a small area of the outer ear rim ("felt the bullet ripping through the skin", said Trump). Ronny Jackson's description of 2 cm described surrounding swelling. Media described the injury as "Trump was not seriously wounded" and "Trump suffered an ear injury but was not seriously hurt". The psychological trauma was more concerning, said Dr. Sanjay Gupta.

The bullet came within a hair of blowing his head off.  And you are quibbling over whether it was a near death experience?   A near death experience can be both physical and mental.  This incident qualifies on both counts.

[Richard Smith]

I didn't say it wasn't a near-death experience. It was. The video and photos are very disturbing to watch. The one death and two who had actual serious injuries are heart-wrenching.

I questioned your cult-like exaggeration of Der Messiah's pathetically-tiny wound being life-threatening, when you wrote:

    "While he was still bleeding from a near death gun shot to the head."

There is no "exaggeration" about this.  He was bleeding from a near death gun shot to the head.  The bullet came within an inch of blowing his head off.  It was near death experience even if he had not been hit at all.  I know you are a Trump hater but if you are quibbling about this level of detail it might be time to turn off MSNBC.  To characterize a simple fact as "cult-like exaggeration" is the embodiment of Trump Derangement Syndrome.  Of course, the original point under the discussion was not the severity of Trump's wound but your profoundly stupid criticism that he should have broken away from the secret service to console those injured in the crowd.  One of the most laughable things I've ever read here.  Hopefully you were not serious.  Imagine Trump with his ear shot and bleeding and in a cauldron of secret service agents fighting his way through them to the crowd to administer aid to people he had no idea were injured.  Good grief.

[Royell Storing]

 Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is real.

[Richard Smith]

Trump's tiny ear graze came closer to missing him all together than hitting him. The outer edge of his right was tilted out from his head.

I made no such "profoundly stupid criticism" about Trump going over over to check on people -- cite it if I did. I wondered why all Trump, after he was lifted up, asked about was the condition of his shoes. I thought he might have had the decency to ask about others who might have took the bullets meant for him; I didn't expect he would go over to see how a "basement dweller" was doing. The Secret Service wouldn't allow that, but they did allow him to speak ... and all he could express was concern about was his shoes.

Attempting to trivialize as a "tiny ear graze" a rifle shot that came within an inch of blowing his head off is laughable.  Trump didn't ask "about the condition of his shoes."   That is a demonstrably false statement.  They were knocked off his feet and he wanted to retrieve them.  That is all beside the point, however,  Again, there is no way that the secret service was going to allow Trump to get back to the podium and ask if anyone was injured.  That is a profoundly stupid criticism. 

[Andrew Mason]

The supersonic shock wave does not deliver much energy. If the 10 gram bullet traveling at 1000 m/s loses on the order of 1 m/s per m of travel the energy imparted per m is:
1/2 m(v²-(v-1)²)=1/2 m(2v-1)=m(v-.5)=10 joules. And that is distributed in a cone over an entire metre. His ear opening is maybe 1cm and on one side of the cone. So the energy reaching the ear is 1/200th of that or .05J.  And the bullet would have to pass over the ear canal to impart some of that energy to the ear drum. In this case, the bullet passed an inch or so above the ear canal because it struck the upper part of the outer ear. 

What evidence is there that a bullet shock wave event applied directly over the ear canal will cause hearing loss ie. break an ear drum?

I think I have answered my question and I should apologize to Joe (Elliot, not Biden) for suggesting that he may be overstating the point.  It appears that it is possible for a shock wave from a bullet to damage a person's hearing. see:
"Auditory risk of exposure to ballistic N-waves from bullets", Gregory A Flamme, William J Murphy, International Journal of Audiology 2019 Feb,2019 Feb;58(sup1):S58-S64.

However, while the cone shaped shock wave (emanating from the tip of the supersonic bullet pushing through the air) can damage hearing, to do so the wave has to impart pressure toward the eardrum.  In this case the missile passed above the ear canal and right next to DJT's ear.  The bullet shock wave may have passed too obliquely to the opening of the ear canal to impart sufficient pressure on the ear drum to damage it. 

[Zeon Mason]

Fact: Trump had a legitimate reason to drop to the ground after he was aware of the whatever it was projectile that grazed by his ear.

But since I’m still a CT (more or less ) it would be an interesting exercise in speculation how Trump could have pulled off a fake injury to his ear.

One possibility is the use of a sharp ring in the hand that could puncture the ear lob.

But it’s doubtful that the doctor could be fooled unless the doctor was in on covering it up kind of like the Navy autopsy doctor who examined JFK and then tore up his notes.

I’m not sure how to integrate this into the topic of “Joe Bidens Legacy”other than to engage in more speculation that rhetoric from Biden about taking Trump behind the wood shed could have prompted The troubled Crooks to act out.

Thank you for reading this far and good day to to everyone on this JFK Forum regardless your particular bias either for or against the WC report and or the 2024 candidates/parties.