Joe Biden's Legacy

[Andrew Mason]

  So, you admit those 2 graphs do Not address the 10+ Million Illegal Aliens/Border Crossings. This is progress. The 10+ Million Figure is routinely accepted by both sides of the aisle. And again, that is a very Low Ball number. Calif loves waving these Illegals into their state. This inflates their population numbers which in turn results in their maintaining or increasing the number of Congressmen they are awarded. Same goes for their electoral college vote total. With the masses leaving Calif, they need this influx for political reasons. As usual, the bottom line motivation is Power.

10 million total. That is what the graphs I provided show. But you are saying 10+ million per year? Where does that come from?  The estimates based on reliable figures is about 500,000 per year:
Wikipedia: Illegal Immigration to the United States
two thirds of which are visitors overstaying their visas.

Trump wants you to believe that the number of clandestine entries across the southern borders not spotted by border patrols or the number of people who are smuggled in to the U.S. by human traffickers is huge.  But there is no evidence that attempts to cross have increased.  Now with the impenetrable border wall that Trump built, they are likely very small.   After all, Trump didn't want to increase the number of border guards and did not want to plug some of the loopholes used by organized crime so it couldn't be that serious.

[Andrew Mason]

  And even here we have someone swallowing the Bogus/Misleading Graphs/Numbers they continue putting out there. This is right in line with their claiming the Afghan withdrawal was completely Hunky Dory even though we see people falling from the landing gear of airborne planes, along with the military deaths. They will do whatever they can to stay In Power. Nothing is outta bounds.

So show us the evidence that they are bogus.

[Royell Storing]

  You're forgetting that Biden tore down much of the Trump Border Wall. And you are forgetting that for 2 yrs the Biden/Harris administration claimed there was No Problem down on the Southern Border. Now, they admit the Tens Of Millions of Illegals that have crossed and remain inside the USA. Plus, they also Now admit that 100's of Terrorist's have also crossed into this country and remain here.  You're following in Lock Step the numbers the Fed is feeding you. The Biden/Harris Administration also supplied the 818,000 New Created Jobs figure that they were forced to rescind, and they gave you the Bogus Crime Numbers that have also Now been proven to be Rigged.

[Andrew Mason]

  You're forgetting that Biden tore down much of the Trump Border Wall.

You need to check your facts.  That appears to be made up.  Biden tried to re-direct funding for border wall construction and was unable to get Congress to do it. So more wall was actually built under Biden.

And you are forgetting that for 2 yrs the Biden/Harris administration claimed there was No Problem down on the Southern Border. Now, they admit the Tens Of Millions of Illegals that have crossed and remain inside the USA.

Another made-up factoid.  There are only 11 million illegals in the U.S. now.  You need some evidence to support your claims. Trump is not a reliable source of anything except BS.

Plus, they also Now admit that 100's of Terrorist's have also crossed into this country and remain here.  You're following in Lock Step the numbers the Fed is feeding you. The Biden/Harris Administration also supplied the 818,000 New Created Jobs figure that they were forced to rescind, and they gave you the Bogus Crime Numbers that have also Now been proven to be Rigged.

Again, another unchecked factoid spewn from someone's lower half.  There are definitely concerns about people on the terror watch list trying to enter the U.S. through the southern border.  Biden tried to beef up border security but the Republicans refused to pass the bipartisan bill that was negotiated. The House Committee on Immigration and Enforcement has looked into these concerns several times.  Here is a comment from Rep. Jayapal to which no rebuttal was made by his Republican colleagues:

[Royell Storing]

  "That APPEARS to be made up".  Translation = You do Not Know. With regard to Terrorists now inside the USA, that's a Fact. You obviously have missed Wray saying so in front of Congress. This is what happens when an ILLEGAL ALIEN is caught, given an appearance court date well into the future, (sometimes years), and then RELEASED inside the USA. We really do Not Know specifically who an Illegal Alien really is. And let's not forget that Illegal Aliens are claiming ASYLUM. They are supposed to be legitimately fearing for their life.

[Andrew Mason]

  "That APPEARS to be made up".  Translation = You do Not Know.

I included the fact-check link so you can see for yourself that Biden did not stop construction of the border wall that was started under Trump. Why don’t you reply to that and show where it is wrong.

With regard to Terrorists now inside the USA, that's a Fact. You obviously have missed Wray saying so in front of Congress. This is what happens when an ILLEGAL ALIEN is caught, given an appearance court date well into the future, (sometimes years), and then RELEASED inside the USA. We really do Not Know specifically who an Illegal Alien really is. And let's not forget that Illegal Aliens are claiming ASYLUM. They are supposed to be legitimately fearing for their life.

Wray admitted that people on the terror watch list - which includes anyone from some countries like Somalia - have appeared at the southern border. Presumably if someone did the impossible and managed to climb over Trump’s wall then there could be some people who you would call terrorists who have entered illegally. But, like you, I don’t know.

[Richard Smith]

I included the fact-check link so you can see for yourself that Biden did not stop construction of the border wall that was started under Trump. Why don’t you reply to that and show where it is wrong.
Wray admitted that people on the terror watch list - which includes anyone from some countries like Somalia - have appeared at the southern border. Presumably if someone did the impossible and managed to climb over Trump’s wall then there could be some people who you would call terrorists who have entered illegally. But, like you, I don’t know.

So you are saying that Trump was correct that a border wall would keep illegal aliens out of the country and that it should have been built?  I'm not sure that I'm following your point here.  The Dems ran a campaign claiming any such wall was racist and ineffective.  During Trump's presidency the Dems obstructed the wall by every possible means.  After Biden was elected, his administration left considerable amounts of materials and contracts to build the wall already paid for to rust or sold them off.  That was Trump's fault?  Trump did the best the could with result while the Dems challenged his every effort to control the border.  After three and half years of an open border in which record numbers of illegal aliens entered the country and an election was approaching, the Dems attempted to mitigate the political consequences with some token efforts to reduce the numbers.   Not to address the problem but to address their political liability for failure and incompetence.  The Republicans correctly did not let them off the hook.

[Andrew Mason]

So you are saying that Trump was correct that a border wall would keep illegal aliens out of the country and that it should have been built?  I'm not sure that I'm following your point here. 

The point is that, contrary to the claim made by Royell Storing, Biden did not take down any of Trump's wall.  Rather, construction that had already been funded and started continued.  This was not what Biden wanted.  All I said was that if it was such a great wall, how could there be anyone getting across it? That was sarcasm.  The wall itself is next to useless without adequately funded border patrols.  The idea is to ensure that crossings only occur at border posts, which is what the law requires.  But if that was what Republicans wanted, they should not have voted down the bipartisan bill.  In fact, Republican's don't want the problem solved. They want to create fear of "illegal aliens" for political advantage and then, after they get into power, crib up "statistics" to make the fear go away.

The Dems ran a campaign claiming any such wall was racist and ineffective.  During Trump's presidency the Dems obstructed the wall by every possible means.  After Biden was elected, his administration left considerable amounts of materials and contracts to build the wall already paid for to rust or sold them off.  That was Trump's fault?  Trump did the best the could with result while the Dems challenged his every effort to control the border.  After three and half years of an open border in which record numbers of illegal aliens entered the country and an election was approaching, the Dems attempted to mitigate the political consequences with some token efforts to reduce the numbers.   Not to address the problem but to address their political liability for failure and incompetence.  The Republicans correctly did not let them off the hook.

You seem to have bought the Trump lies.  Do you also think Haitian immigrants are eating dogs in Springfield?  Funny how that rumour was started by neo-nazis who had previously marched in Springfield to oppose immigration.