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Online David Monaghan

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Someone would have talked
« on: August 24, 2024, 01:25:18 AM »
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We hear this often, thing is people have talked, some carry more weight than others, folk like Spencer, Stringer are more than qualified to give their opinion.
Then you have the Sibert and O'Neil report.
Then we go down the line a bit to Summerset and Milteer, Brown, Hunt, Files, Ruby etc.
I get some can be dismissed on the face of it but it only takes one to be correct, this is before we get to the 40 odd doctors and many eye witnesses who are contrary to the official version. Feel free to add more but that's just for starters off the top of my head.
I can absolutely get on board with Oswald being involved but to suggest there is no evidence of others involved or no one talked is simply not true.

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Someone would have talked
« on: August 24, 2024, 01:25:18 AM »


Online Royell Storing

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Re: Someone would have talked
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2024, 01:50:43 PM »
  Agree. The only segment that does not talk are those with direct connections to Organized Crime/Mafia. They know "swimming with the fishes" is not merely a tag line. "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" JFK Assassination Presentation did get its' share of stuff wrong, but 1 segment that continues to ring true is the part detailing "French Connection" drug money being involved in the payoff to the killers. The guy speaking in French, (his face removed  from the filming), detailed that the assassination also included a shooter, "On the horizontal". This "Horizontal" bullet(s) being fired would be consistent with Wiegman detailing on, "Unsolved History JFK, Death in Dealey Plaza" of his feeling a bullet "Compression" on his face. "Unsolved History JFK.........", involved Gary Mack and presented a lot of the JFK Assassination Images that the Sixth Floor Museum has laying around doing nothing of merit. I bring this up as to the "nugget(s) of value" that are often included but overlooked within JFK Assassination Presentations that on-the-whole have falsehoods galore within them, and therefore are maligned and dismissed from further discussion/evaluation. These "nuggets" are often thrown out like the, "baby with the bath water". This is very, very, foolish. There is a connection between the French Informant on "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" and the Wiegman comment of his feeling the "Compression of a bullet" on his face during the Gary Mack, "Unsolved History JFK......." presentation.   
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Online Sean Kneringer

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Re: Someone would have talked
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2024, 03:29:32 PM »
The people who killed Hoffa never talked.

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Online Royell Storing

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Re: Someone would have talked
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2024, 04:10:09 PM »
The people who killed Hoffa never talked.

  This would be "Organized Crime/Mafia" as referenced above.
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Offline Zeon Mason

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Re: Someone would have talked
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2024, 11:43:43 PM »
Seems the trouble is that so MANY people talked that we cannot pinpoint exactly who the core  no. of conspirators were or if there was just one super boss who made the final decision.

A lot of suspicion about LBJ and even his former attorney thinks LBJ orchestrated it, but if that’s correct , why would LBJ choose to have JFK shot in Dealey  plaza when it could have been done with a much simpler “heart attack” death by some untraceable drug( at the time in 63)?

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Re: Someone would have talked
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2024, 03:48:02 PM »

      An assassination at a Public Venue is also sending a vivid message. You do not get that by "Slipping a Mickey" to someone.

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Re: Someone would have talked
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2024, 09:03:18 PM »
Seems the trouble is that so MANY people talked that we cannot pinpoint exactly who the core  no. of conspirators were or if there was just one super boss who made the final decision.

A lot of suspicion about LBJ and even his former attorney thinks LBJ orchestrated it, but if that’s correct , why would LBJ choose to have JFK shot in Dealey  plaza when it could have been done with a much simpler “heart attack” death by some untraceable drug( at the time in 63)?

This a valid point, Zeon, and one that is often skirted over by CTers.
If the FBI/Secret Service/CIA and others were involved in the assassination (the "Large Enduring Conspiracy") then why not something much simpler, behind closed doors, much more easily controlled (and we can forget Royell's childish idea about 'sending a message').
Why not something with no loose ends, no witnesses, no evidence to the contrary?
I think the answer is quite simple - those who decided to assassinate JFK were not in a position to kill him in such an 'intimate' way.
They were not the FBI or the Secret Service or the CIA.

There is something very desperate about the way JFK was assassinated.
Something very basic and lo-fi.
Something crude and unsophisticated.
Something that speaks of a handful of people involved, not a massively complex operation.

Nowadays, the idea of the President of America being the most powerful man on the planet has lost almost all of its prestige, but back in the early '60's it was truly off the charts. And not just in America - JFK was a globally accepted icon.
Let's imagine deciding to assassinate such a man.
How do you design an assassination attempt so that the finger can never point at you?
What are the consequences of failure?
How do you keep it quiet?

I think there is a very specific reason JFK was assassinated in Dallas.
« Last Edit: September 10, 2024, 11:36:54 PM by Dan O'meara »

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