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Offline Jack Nessan

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Re: The Palmprint
« Reply #88 on: November 10, 2024, 02:18:38 AM »
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"Based on the question LT Day was asked by Mr Belin, Print 3 is a recant of print 1 and print 2. Mr Belin and Mr McCloy understood this why can’t you?"

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Why do you bother posting this crazy nonsense?
Don't you have anything better to do?
Just for a laugh explain exactly what you mean by saying print 3 is a "recant" of print 1 and print 2.
This is what Day said:

"The gun was being sent in to them for process of prints. Actually I thought the print on the gun was their best bet, still remained on there, and, too, there was another print, I thought possibly under the wood part up near the trigger housing."

When he says "the print on the gun was their best bet" he is referring to the palmprint he said was left on the barrel when he tried his botched attempt to lift it. This is the magical print that vanished.
He then says there was another print that was under the wood and near the trigger housing.
I can't wait to hear your explanation.

Excuse me.  Recant is what I was thinking you should be doing with the two palm prints storyline. Reiterate is what Day was doing in restating the two prints he noted.
 Lt Day is only talking about two prints. Reiterate is what Lt Day was doing about the two prints.

Print one is actually two fingers (right middle and right ring finger) but is the print covered by the cellophane on the trigger guard as noted by Latona. It is alternately referred to as a print or prints. Basically, one print of two fingers.

Print two is the palm print which is under the fore end of the stock.

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Re: The Palmprint
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Offline Jack Nessan

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Re: The Palmprint
« Reply #89 on: November 10, 2024, 02:21:54 AM »
Here's another little mystery i came across while going through Day's WC testimony.
Maybe you could help me out with it Jack, you're unique outlook might come in useful.
Day is testifying about when he first discovered the magical palmprint:

"I could also see a trace of a print on the side of the barrel that extended under the woodstock. I started to take the woodstock off and noted traces of a palmprint near the firing end of the barrel about 3 inches under the wood-stock when I took the woodstock loose...On the bottom side of the barrel which was covered by the wood, I found traces of a palmprint. I dusted these and tried lifting them, the prints, with scotch tape in the usual manner. A faint palmprint came off."

Now, my interpretation of this is that Day saw traces of the palmprint sticking out from under the wooden stock. When he takes the wood off he sees the palmprint on the underside of the barrel. In the pic below I've put a red arrow to point out where Day is referring to when he says the print "extended under the woodstock" and was on "the bottom side of the barrel".



What do you reckon Jack?
Is this a fair interpretation of what Day testified to?

You have posted the wrong Carcano rifle. That looks like the M91 TS and has a shorter barrel. You want the 91/38 rifle. I would think the WC located exactly where it was found on the barrel. Can you make your point anyway with the wrong rifle?

Offline Zeon Mason

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Re: The Palmprint
« Reply #90 on: Today at 07:50:28 PM »
So What was the date/time  when the FBI received possession of this fingerprint card that Lt.Day supposedly made by transferring  the supposedly lifted prints from MC rifle,  but for some reason Day was unwllling or unable to hand over  this card along with the MC rifle when Day was instructed to hand over ALL evidence  on Nov 22/63 to the FBI?

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