Tippit Debate

[John Iacoletti]

As for your continuing assertions that there are edits beyond the splicing, those are simply your own unsupported nebulosities.

Like your unsupported nebulosity that there was enough traffic to record continuously?

[Mitch Todd]

Like your unsupported nebulosity that there was enough traffic to record continuously?

As I've said, we've been over this before. The DPD recording system would continue to record for four full seconds after the end of a transmission. There isn't a gap that long between Bowley's transmission and the second of the two 1:19 time stamps, indicating that the Dictabelt was running continuously in that interval

[John Iacoletti]

As I've said, we've been over this before. The DPD recording system would continue to record for four full seconds after the end of a transmission. There isn't a gap that long between Bowley's transmission and the second of the two 1:19 time stamps, indicating that the Dictabelt was running continuously in that interval

That doesn't even make sense.  Are you saying the Benavides/Bowley transmission was at 1:19 (police dispatcher time)?

[Mitch Todd]

That doesn't even make sense.  Are you saying the Benavides/Bowley transmission was at 1:19 (police dispatcher time)?

JI: That doesn't even make sense.

It makes perfect sense if you actually stop to understand how the system worked. But you have to stop to think about it first


JI: Are you saying the Benavides/Bowley transmission was at 1:19 (police dispatcher time)?

I've already said a few posts ago in this thread that my analysis puts the beginning of the Bowley transmission at 1:17:54 +/- 10 seconds, so, no. You replied to that post. Do you not understand what you read, or are you deliberately trying to be obtuse?

[Bill Brown]

That doesn't even make sense.  Are you saying the Benavides/Bowley transmission was at 1:19 (police dispatcher time)?

Wow.  Just wow.

[John Iacoletti]

I've already said a few posts ago in this thread that my analysis puts the beginning of the Bowley transmission at 1:17:54 +/- 10 seconds

Only if you assume (without evidence) that the device was continuously recording between 1:16 and 1:19, and that the extant copies are an accurate representation of what was captured on the device. Not to mention the assumption that the dispatcher time announcements are accurate to begin with.

By the way, the transcript here indicates a 15 second pause right before the "hello police operator broadcast".

https://www.jfk-assassination.net/dpdtapes/tapes2.htm

[Mitch Todd]

Only if you assume (without evidence) that the device was continuously recording between 1:16 and 1:19, and that the extant copies are an accurate representation of what was captured on the device. Not to mention the assumption that the dispatcher time announcements are accurate to begin with.

By the way, the transcript here indicates a 15 second pause right before the "hello police operator broadcast".

https://www.jfk-assassination.net/dpdtapes/tapes2.htm

JI: Only if you assume (without evidence) that the device was continuously recording between 1:16 and 1:19

I don't assume that the recording ran continuously from 1:16 to 1:19, for exactly the reason you mention. I said that the recording is continuous from "Hello, Police Operator" to the seconds 1:19 transmission. That's why I started from the 1:19 transmissions and worked backwards. I've already explained why I say this.

[Zeon Mason]

Sorry, but can’t see how Bowleys watch which he says he looked at when reaching the scene , could be 7 minutes slow.

And Markams clock would have to be similarly 7 minutes slow.

So that’s why I at least was offering double timing for Oswald  so the timeline  can work without having to impeach major WC witnesses.

Did Calloway ever agree with anyone making a suggestion that he must of heard the shots fired at 1:15?

And there is that pesky 1:15 DOA by the emergency doctor which is MOT the same as a physicians “estimate” of when Tippit was shot. The DOA document is simply noting what the time of the hospital clock was when the doctor announced the body is dead. That clock also would have to be 7 minutes slow if you believe that the Bowleys radio call was made at 1:17.