Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.

[Tom Mahon]

Max Holland’s video depiction of the sniper firing the first shot from a standing position is lacking a lot. If he had constructed a complete sniper’s nest with all of the boxes in their proper places (including all of the boxes immediately surrounding the nest), he would have found out that there really isn’t enough room for a sniper to kneel between the boxes.

Where does Max Holland indicate the “movement of something white” in the window? I simply don’t remember where it was indicated to be. If it was in the open (lower 1/4) part of the window, he would have been sitting on the box and leaning forward preparing to aim the rifle.

Sitting on the box while firing all three shots would have been his most stable and feasible position given the ergonomics of the sniper’s nest, and he should have known that from his military training and experience. The window box was in a position that could have interfered with an early first shot. That interference might have caused an inadvertent discharge (before it was fully aimed).

The ejection pattern could also be explained by using more force ejecting the first missed shot due to frustration regarding an inadvertent discharge.

Holland shows a 5' 9" - 5' 10" "Oswald" in an accurately reconstructed Sniper's Nest. He's kneeling at the back-left side of the stack so that his left forearm is resting on the stack and wedged between it and the wall. I have a screenshot showing this, but I don't know how to post it here.

Regarding the movement in the window, watch "The Lost Bullet."

Your "premature xxxxxxxxxxx" theory is flaccid, imho, as is your theory that Oswald's angst at having prematurely xxxxxxxxxx caused him to rechamber his second round so angrily as to jerk (pardon the pun) the spent shell way over to the right.

[Charles Collins]

How do I post a screenshot here?

You have to post it elsewhere and link to it. I usually use vgy.me. Then paste a direct link in the proper place using the photo icon just below the bold icon in the top left corner of the post reply window.

[Tom Mahon]

You have to post it elsewhere and link to it. I usually use vgy.me. Then paste a direct link in the proper place using the photo icon just below the bold icon in the top left corner of the post reply window.

Thanks, but no thanks.

Just watch "The Lost Bullet."

[Charles Collins]

Holland shows a 5' 9" - 5' 10" "Oswald" in an accurately reconstructed Sniper's Nest. He's kneeling at the back-left side of the stack so that his left forearm is resting on the stack and wedged between it and the wall. I have a screenshot showing this, but I don't know how to post it here.

Regarding the movement in the window, watch "The Lost Bullet."

Your "premature xxxxxxxxxxx" theory is flaccid, imho, as is your theory that Oswald's angst at having prematurely xxxxxxxxxx caused him to rechamber his second round so angrily as to jerk it (pardon the pun) way over to the right.

The sniper’s nest in Holland’s video is nowhere near accurate regarding the location of the box that the sniper apparently sat on. The boxes near that box aren’t even included. The recreation therefore does not acccurately reflect the actual conditions.

I saw The Lost Bullet but it has been a long time ago. I just do not remember the location of the apparent movement. If you have a screen shot and are unable to post it, just say if it was in the lower 1/4 of the window or not. I do not believe that a sniper had room to kneel at the left side of the stack if the seat box was in the proper position. That is a fatal error on Holland’s part. Plus I do not believe that a sniper would choose to stand up to shoot when he had a stable seat and rifle support set up for shots that would occur a second or two later. Standing and shooting offhand is much less stable than seated and supported. Plus time would be lost shifting from standing to kneeling or seated positions. It makes no sense whatsoever for a sniper to stand and shoot like Holland’s theory suggests.

[Charles Collins]

Thanks, but no thanks.

Just watch "The Lost Bullet."

I have already. It is fatally flawed. Some flaws I just described above.

[Tom Mahon]

Max Holland’s video depiction of the sniper firing the first shot from a standing position is lacking a lot. If he had constructed a complete sniper’s nest with all of the boxes in their proper places (including all of the boxes immediately surrounding the nest), he would have found out that there really isn’t enough room for a sniper to kneel between the boxes.

Sitting on the box while firing all three shots would have been his most stable and feasible position given the ergonomics of the sniper’s nest, and he should have known that from his military training and experience. The window box was in a position that could have interfered with an early first shot. That interference might have caused an inadvertent discharge (before it was fully aimed).

Holland did recreate the Sniper's Nest accurately. Watch "The Lost Bullet."

The "sitting box" wasn't close enough to the window to permit him to sit on it while shooting. To sit on and lean forward every minute or so to see if the motorcade had turned onto Houston Street, yes, but not to shoot from.

Do you think Oswald used the stack of boxes at the window at all while he shooting?

If not, why did he go to the trouble of putting them there if he wasn't planning on using them?

The first shot at hypothetical "Z-124" was about a second later than Holland thought it was (at hypothetical "Z-107"), requiring Oswald to swivel a little bit farther to his left than Holland shows him in "The Lost Bullet."

[Tom Mahon]

The ejection pattern could also be explained by using more force ejecting the first missed shot due to frustration regarding an inadvertent discharge.

Oswald had to be at the window, not sitting on a box some distance from it, while shooting. If "the sitting box" was closer to the window than it actually was and he was sitting on it for all three shots, no matter how angrily or frustratingly he ejected the spent shell after his first shot, it wouldn't have flown far down to his right (where it was found), but bounced off the tall stack of boxes behind him and ended up pretty close to the window -- just as the shells from his second and third shots did.

Bottom line: Oswald was standing and awkwardly leaning forward during that steeply-downward-angled shot at the fast-moving target below. That's why he missed everything with it, and that's why the shell didn't bounce off the stack of books behind him but flew unhindered all the way down to his right where it bounced of the stack off boxes there.

 

[Charles Collins]

Holland did recreate the Sniper's Nest accurately. Watch "The Lost Bullet."

The "sitting box" wasn't close enough to the window to permit him to sit on it while shooting. To sit on and lean forward every minute or so to see if the motorcade had turned onto Houston Street, yes, but not to shoot from.

Do you think Oswald used the stack of boxes at the window at all while he shooting?

If not, why did he go to the trouble of putting them there if he wasn't planning on using them?

The first shot at hypothetical "Z-124" was about a second later than Holland thought it was (at hypothetical "Z-107"), requiring Oswald to swivel a little bit farther to his left than Holland shows him in "The Lost Bullet."

Here is a link to a thread I started a while back regarding the sniper’s nest ergonomics. It should answer all of your questions in this reply.

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,3682.0.html

If, after studying my model in that thread, you still do not want to believe that Holland’s depiction is fatally flawed. I suggest that you do your own research. As can be seen, that’s exactly what I did.