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Online Tom Mahon

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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #352 on: February 06, 2025, 10:02:07 PM »
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Myers further displays his ridiculous grasp of significant digits by claiming that Tippit was shot at precisely 1:14:30 pm.  I'm surprised he didn't say how many milliseconds.

Yet you would have criticized him if he'd had the gosh-darned gall to say "between 1:14 and 1:15."

LOL!
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Online Charles Collins

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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #353 on: February 06, 2025, 11:29:08 PM »
Nice strawman, Charles.  Next?

Myers further displays his ridiculous grasp of significant digits by claiming that Tippit was shot at precisely 1:14:30 pm.  I'm surprised he didn't say how many milliseconds.


Myers does explain in detail how he arrived at the figures (similar to as he does in the film synchronization documentation). Andrew Mason thought he had found a significant error with the Wiegman film sync. But as we have seen the difference was due to Myers’ thoroughness.

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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #354 on: Today at 04:01:39 AM »
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Personally it appears to me that Dale Myers has done an outstanding job. You entered this discussion with the notion that Dale Myers had the beginning of the Wiegman film out of sync with the others. I think we have seen that the issue is a matter of Dale Myers using the original film versus a more commonly available edited copy. Not an error by Dale Myers, but actually a more accurate depiction of what actually happened (due to Dale Myers’ thoroughness). That bodes well for my confidence level in his works. 

You are entitled to your own opinions of course. But your argument reminds me of Iacoletti’s refusal to believe that there has ever been any evidence of anything….
Myers has done a creditable job and is very skilled at animation techniques.  I am just saying that he is overstating the accuracy of his conclusions and does not provide details that are needed in order to check his results. 

My main concern with Myers is with his portrayal of the SBT which involves the accuracy of his placements of the two men in the car as it passed down Elm St. He is using the same zfilm frames to do this that Itek used for their HSCA analysis.  But Itek was careful to provide an error range. Itek concluded that Connally was between 4.5 and 7.5 inches inboard of JFK. (6” ± 1.5”).  Myers doesn’t provide a figure and essentially dismisses error. He says that he lined them up based on the zfilm and the implication is that the error was negligible:
  • “The large, and often overlapping, still and motion picture record of the motorcade between Main and Houston Streets and the point at which Zapruder began filming, provided an accurate and definitive record of the positions of JFK and JBC during this pre-shooting portion of the recreation.”
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Myers has done a creditable job and is very skilled at animation techniques.  I am just saying that he is overstating the accuracy of his conclusions and does not provide details that are needed in order to check his results. 

My main concern with Myers is with his portrayal of the SBT which involves the accuracy of his placements of the two men in the car as it passed down Elm St. He is using the same zfilm frames to do this that Itek used for their HSCA analysis.  But Itek was careful to provide an error range. Itek concluded that Connally was between 4.5 and 7.5 inches inboard of JFK. (6” ± 1.5”).  Myers doesn’t provide a figure and essentially dismisses error. He says that he lined them up based on the zfilm and the implication is that the error was negligible:
  • “The large, and often overlapping, still and motion picture record of the motorcade between Main and Houston Streets and the point at which Zapruder began filming, provided an accurate and definitive record of the positions of JFK and JBC during this pre-shooting portion of the recreation.”

Plus-or-minus two frames, in which Zapruder frame, be it hypothetical (i.e., before Z-133) or actual (i.e., Z-133-on) do you think the first shot was fired?

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