Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.

[Charles Collins]

You appear to be making the same mistake made by the HSCA in accepting Thomas Canning’s placement of JBC.


 The assumption was that the man in front of Betzner was blocking the view of JBC’ s right shoulder, so his right shoulder was left of your yellow line. But Altgens’ #5 photo on Houston shows that JBC’s right shoulder was below the line of sight due to the height of the top of the back seat.


… provided you are using the correct reality.

The assumption was that the man in front of Betzner was blocking the view of JBC’ s right shoulder, so his right shoulder was left of your yellow line. But Altgens’ #5 photo on Houston shows that JBC’s right shoulder was below the line of sight due to the height of the top of the back seat.

 

All one has to do is look at the back of Mrs. JBC (in that Altgens’ 5 photo) and they can easily see that the seat backs of the jumper seats are not high enough to block the view of JBC’s shoulder. Do you really think the HSCA and Thomas Canning would make such an error as you suggest? Give me a break Andrew!



  provided you are using the correct reality.

There is only one reality and you definitely need to find those red ruby slippers and keep clicking your heels together…

[Tom Mahon]

The assumption was that the man in front of Betzner was blocking the view of JBC’ s right shoulder, so his right shoulder was left of your yellow line. But Altgens’ #5 photo on Houston shows that JBC’s right shoulder was below the line of sight due to the height of the top of the back seat.

 

All one has to do is look at the back of Mrs. JBC (in that Altgens’ 5 photo) and they can easily see that the seat backs of the jumper seats are not high enough to block the view of JBC’s shoulder. Do you really think the HSCA and Thomas Canning would make such an error as you suggest? Give me a break Andrew!



  provided you are using the correct reality.

There is only one reality and you definitely need to find those red ruby slippers and keep clicking your heels together…

WTF does any of this have to do with whether or not all three shots were fired in 10.2 seconds?

Does anyone here really believe that the first shot was fired at Z-192, or some-such thing?

[Charles Collins]

WTF does any of this have to do with whether or not all three shots were fired in 10.2 seconds?

Does anyone here really believe that the first shot was fired at Z-192, or some-such thing?

Since you quoted my post I will respond to you. Andrew entered the discussion in response to an answer I gave regarding a question that someone (maybe you) asked regarding before just which shot Wiegman began filming. I cited Dale Myers’ work. Andrew tried to Pooh Pooh on Myers’ work. Things evolved from that (as I figured they would) to arguing about Andrew Mason’s idea regarding the timing of the shots, etc. So it actually does have something to do with “whether or not all three shots were fired in 10.2 seconds”.

Now, I could ask you what your latest post in the thread linked below has to do with why the first shot missed. But I am not a Richard head, so I won’t.     

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2090.msg159402.html#msg159402

[Tom Mahon]

Since you quoted my post I will respond to you. Andrew entered the discussion in response to an answer I gave regarding a question that someone (maybe you) asked regarding before just which shot Wiegman began filming. I cited Dale Myers’ work. Andrew tried to Pooh Pooh on Myers’ work. Things evolved from that (as I figured they would) to arguing about Andrew Mason’s idea regarding the timing of the shots, etc. So it actually does have something to do with “whether or not all three shots were fired in 10.2 seconds”.

I don't need a recitation of the nerdish, mathematics-and-geometry-obsessed history of this thread. All I need is an answer to this question: How does this thread help us determine whether or not all three shots were fired in 10.2 seconds?

Is it impossible to determine, by looking at the photographic images available to us, whether or not all three shots were fired in 10.2 seconds?

If so, what's the use of this thread?

[Charles Collins]

I don't need a recitation of the nerdish, mathematics-and-geometry-obsessed history of this thread. All I need is an answer to this question: How does this thread help us determine whether or not all three shots were fired in 10.2 seconds?

Is it impossible to determine, by looking at the photographic images available to us, whether or not all three shots were fired in 10.2 seconds?

If so, what's the use of this thread?

You have the ability to delete the whole thread if you wish….

[Tom Mahon]

You have the ability to delete the whole thread if you wish….

What, if anything, has Andrew Mason said to you or shown to you in this thread that has caused you to doubt the validity of Dale Myers' synchronization of the Hughes' film, the Zapruder film, and the Towner film, etc.?

[Charles Collins]

What, if anything, has Andrew Mason said to you or shown to you in this thread that has caused you to doubt the validity of Dale Myers' synchronization of the Hughes' film, the Zapruder film, and the Towner film, etc.?

It isn’t about any doubts. Rather, it is about keeping an open mind and potentially learning something from others’ points of view. Andrew indicated he thought Dale Myers’ work was faulty regarding the start of the Weigman film. I looked into the matter and discovered the reason for the perceived issue was that Dale Myers searched for and used the original Wiegman film which includes some 14 additional frames at the beginning of the film that the more common (edited) copies do not include. If anyone else was paying attention, they might have learned something that they didn’t know before. This is the type of thing that I think makes participating in this forum worthwhile. I have personally learned a lot and hope to continue doing so.

[Royell Storing]

It isn’t about any doubts. Rather, it is about keeping an open mind and potentially learning something from others’ points of view. Andrew indicated he thought Dale Myers’ work was faulty regarding the start of the Weigman film. I looked into the matter and discovered the reason for the perceived issue was that Dale Myers searched for and used the original Wiegman film which includes some 14 additional frames at the beginning of the film that the more common (edited) copies do not include. If anyone else was paying attention, they might have learned something that they didn’t know before. This is the type of thing that I think makes participating in this forum worthwhile. I have personally learned a lot and hope to continue doing so.

    Your "...wiegman film which includes some 14 additional frames at the BEGINNING of the film that the more common (Edited) copies do Not include.", sounds alot like the rumor of there being an (UNedited) Zapruder Film in which the BEGINNING shows the JFK Limo turning onto Elm ST. I do Not know when the Myers timeline "work" was done, but the Wiegman Film for decades was ballyhoo'd as being filmed "Continuously". That "continuous" Wiegman filming stuff was proven to be False. If the Myers assigned timelines are based on the Wiegman being shot "continuously", those timelines are worthless. As the saying goes, "The Wiegman Film has more holes than a piece of swiss cheese". Swearing allegiance to the "Continuous" Wiegman Film was also one of the nails that drove Gary Mack into the clutches of the Sixth Floor Museum.