Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.

[Charles Collins]

Neither the SBT nor Andrews 3 shots 3 hits theory, has an explanation for the CE399 bullet that’s so slightly deformed.

If it’s tumbling( or not?)  after exiting JFKs throat atZ194 it’s still traveling probably around 1500 ft/sec ( or more) because it was not likely slowed as much just going thru JFKs throat as in the SBT scenario where it also strikes JC in the back and exits at about 900 ft/ sec before it hits JCs wrist bone.

It might require repeating the 2003 Beyond Conspiracy documentary experiment to examine if a Z193 1st shot and a Z270 shot fired into some kind of matter that represents human body’s of JC and JFK will produce a bullet looking like CE 399.

That particular bullet is made of a lead alloy which is significantly harder than just pure lead. Plus the relatively thick copper jacket provides significant resistance to deformation. These bullets were designed to pass through human bodies instead of mushrooming like, for example a hollow point bullet, does. The harder bullet was considered to be more humane by the powers that were deciding the “rules of war”. You might be surprised at how much force it takes to deform that type (CE 399) bullet as much as CE399 was deformed. We are talking about swinging a hammer hard enough to shatter the large bone (one of the hardest in the human body) in your wrist. The bullet might appear only slightly deformed but it took more force than most folks might imagine.

[Dan O'meara]

That particular bullet is made of a lead alloy which is significantly harder than just pure lead. Plus the relatively thick copper jacket provides significant resistance to deformation. These bullets were designed to pass through human bodies instead of mushrooming like, for example a hollow point bullet, does. The harder bullet was considered to be more humane by the powers that were deciding the “rules of war”. You might be surprised at how much force it takes to deform that type (CE 399) bullet as much as CE399 was deformed. We are talking about swinging a hammer hard enough to shatter the large bone (one of the hardest in the human body) in your wrist. The bullet might appear only slightly deformed but it took more force than most folks might imagine.

Yet the same type of bullet instantly fragmented when it contacted JFK's skull?

The bullet that shattered Connally's wrist also fragmented.
CE399 was introduced into the chain of evidence after it had passed from Chief Rowley to SA Elmer Todd.

[Tom Graves]

Yet the same type of bullet instantly fragmented when it contacted JFK's skull?

The bullet that shattered Connally's wrist also fragmented.

CE399 was introduced into the chain of evidence after it had passed from Chief Rowley to SA Elmer Todd.

According to the autopsy doctors, the bullet that struck JFK's head hit near its hardest part -- the External Occipital Protuberance.

The bullet that struck JBC's wrist (CE-399) did not fragment -- probably because, having passed through JFK and JBC, it had slowed down quite a bit and because it was twirling when it struck said bone.

D'oh

[Royell Storing]

According to the autopsy doctors, the bullet that struck JFK's head hit near its hardest part -- the External Occipital Protuberance.

The bullet that struck JBC's wrist (CE-399) did not fragment -- probably because, having passed through JFK and JBC, it had slowed down quite a bit and because it was twirling when it struck said bone.

D'oh

   "Probably Because....."?  That immediately DQ's your point. Try it again and act like you know what you are talking about. Otherwise, you'll get the gulag.

[Tom Graves]

"Probably Because....."?

You don't think its passing through JFK and JBC slowed it down?

[Tom Graves]

"Probably Because....."?  That immediately DQ's your point. Try it again and act like you know what you are talking about. Otherwise, you'll get the gulag.

What's ironic, Storing, is that you're grossly misinformed not only about the JFKA, but about the KGB* / Russian Mafia's control of The Traitorous Orange Xxxx, as well.

Rhymes with bird.

*Today's SVR and FSB

[John Mytton]

According to the autopsy doctors, the bullet that struck JFK's head hit near its hardest part -- the External Occipital Protuberance.

The bullet that struck JBC's wrist (CE-399) did not fragment -- probably because, having passed through JFK and JBC, it had slowed down quite a bit and because it was twirling when it struck said bone.

D'oh

Hi Tom, as the WC showed, a full speed bullet striking a human wrist would literally smash the wrist bone therefore for CE399 to only fracture Connally's wrist it must have been travelling slower!



CE399 was partially slowed after moving through the soft tissue of Kennedy's neck, it then went sideways through Connally and after exiting it struck Connally's wrist at an angle hence why it left lead fragments and subsequently CE399 buried itself shallowly in Connally's thigh.

In fact the main provenance for the authenticity of CE399 is the fact that it was discovered before anyone knew the true extent of the injuries, so in other words who could possibly know what condition of bullet to plant?

CE399 was intact when found by Tomlinson.
CE399 shed a small amount of lead and a small amount of lead was discovered in Connally.
CE399 was flattened on one side consistent with it's passage sideways through Connally's ribs and even though a Carcano bullet fired through water will deform it won't exhibit the same flattening on only one side.



Also worth noting is that John Lattimer removed a similar amount of lead from another Carcano bullet and made 41 fragments which easily accounted for the missing lead from CE399.



JohnM

[Charles Collins]

Hi Tom, as the WC showed, a full speed bullet striking a human wrist would literally smash the wrist bone therefore for CE399 to only fracture Connally's wrist it must have been travelling slower!



CE399 was partially slowed after moving through the soft tissue of Kennedy's neck, it then went sideways through Connally and after exiting it struck Connally's wrist at an angle hence why it left lead fragments and subsequently CE399 buried itself shallowly in Connally's thigh.

In fact the main provenance for the authenticity of CE399 is the fact that it was discovered before anyone knew the true extent of the injuries, so in other words who could possibly know what condition of bullet to plant?

CE399 was intact when found by Tomlinson.
CE399 shed a small amount of lead and a small amount of lead was discovered in Connally.
CE399 was flattened on one side consistent with it's passage sideways through Connally's ribs and even though a Carcano bullet fired through water will deform it won't exhibit the same flattening on only one side.



Also worth noting is that John Lattimer removed a similar amount of lead from another Carcano bullet and made 41 fragments which easily accounted for the missing lead from CE399.



JohnM

It’s interesting to see in those photos just how thick the copper jacket is on those bullets. Those photos bring out that aspect very well. Thanks!