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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
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Mr. SPECTER - What did the wound of entry look like, Doctor?
Dr. GREGORY - It appeared to me that the wound of entry was sort of a linear wound, perhaps three-quarters of an inch in length with a rounded central portion. Whereas, the wound of exit was rather larger than this, perhaps an inch and a half across.


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Yeah John, there's no need to repeat Gregory's testimony because that's not what's being discussed.
You were saying that the picture you posted of the hole in the back of Connally's shirt showed a hole that appeared to you to be roughly 3/4 of an inch "measured from each extremity".
But the hole in Connally's shirt is nowhere near 3/4 of an inch.
How you can't just hold your hands up and say you made a silly mistake is incredible.
Once again, you're making such a fool of yourself.




The hole is a shade over 3/8 of an inch one way and a shade under 3/8 of an inch the other.
Neither measurement is anywhere near 3/4 of an inch. How you could suggest that is really insane.
That you can't just admit to your mistake is disturbing.

This hole demonstrates beyond any reasonable doubt that the bullet was NOT "tumbling" as it entered JBC's back.

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Online Dan O'meara

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That kind of bullet fired from that kind of Carcano tends to start yawing (i.e., "tumbling") upon exiting something soft (e.g., a block of ballistics gel or a human neck), as shown by Luke and Mike Haag in the evil, evil, evil PBS NOVA special, "Cold Case JFK."

Perhaps you missed it.

Yeah buddy, and perhaps you're missing all the evidence against a tumbling bullet that's being put right in your face at the moment.
Explain how a yawing bullet created such a small hole in the back of JBC's shirt (or don't bother)
Thanks again for providing the testimony showing when the tumbling nonsense was created.

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« Reply #594 on: Today at 02:43:48 AM »
What John Mytton showed is that the size of the hole in the fabric is not an indication of the size of the bullet (see the high-speed photos of the bullet penetrating the fabric). The fabric stretches as the bullet passes through it. Then the fabric rebounds and the actual hole is smaller than the bullet. Human skin behaves similarly. So does paper to some extent. Here’s a photo of a paper target that I personally shot with (5) 25-caliber pellets through the same hole from a distance of ten meters. I personally measured the actual hole in the paper target with my digital calipers. It measures slightly less than 1/4 of an inch. The margins of the paper around the actual hole are slightly deformed but have rebounded such that the actual hole is smaller. The threads comprising the fabric of the shirt can and do stretch and rebound without leaving deformations that are as obvious (unless you know what you are looking at) as the deformations in the margins of the hole in the paper.



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Yeah buddy, and perhaps you're missing all the evidence against a tumbling bullet that's being put right in your face at the moment.
Explain how a yawing bullet created such a small hole in the back of JBC's shirt (or don't bother)
Thanks again for providing the testimony showing when the tumbling nonsense was created.

So, you do admit that that kind of bullet fired from that kind of Carcano was shown in the PBS NOVA special "Cold Case JFK" to have a tendency to start "yawing" (i.e., "tumbling") upon exiting something soft -- like a block of ballistics gel or a human neck.

Good!

You're making progress!

Because earlier on this "thread" you were denying it.
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What John Mytton showed is that the size of the hole in the fabric is not an indication of the size of the bullet (see the high-speed photos of the bullet penetrating the fabric). The fabric stretches as the bullet passes through it. Then the fabric rebounds and the actual hole is smaller than the bullet. Human skin behaves similarly. So does paper to some extent. Here’s a photo of a paper target that I personally shot with (5) 25-caliber pellets through the same hole from a distance of ten meters. I personally measured the actual hole in the paper target with my digital calipers. It measures slightly less than 1/4 of an inch. The margins of the paper around the actual hole are slightly deformed but have rebounded such that the actual hole is smaller. The threads comprising the fabric of the shirt can and do stretch and rebound without leaving deformations that are as obvious (unless you know what you are looking at) as the deformations in the margins of the hole in the paper.



Thanks Charles, it doesn't matter how much evidence to the contrary is presented, some people who only see conspiracy are not willing to do the research that contradicts their ideas, or in some cases even when that evidence from a neutral scientific source is shown, they simply double down with their insanity and start with the insults.

As I mentioned in my post I researched what happens to fabric when acted upon with a bullet because at face value something didn't add up, for a start the hole appears to be square and the dimensions of the hole exceed the size of a 6.5 mm Carcano bullet and on either side of the hole, the fabric was excessively ragged.

Then as they say in the classics, corroborated evidence is some of the best evidence, so I went back to Dr. Gregory's testimony where he says that the bullet entrance was linear and perhaps 3/4 of an inch long and looking closely at the higher quality image of Connally's shirt it became immediately apparent that the shredding started at a point which corresponds with the approximate size of the actual wound, now we are getting somewhere.
So next I investigated the properties of fabric after a bullet passed through and as I posted, in every example the hole was far less than the diameter of the bullet and in each case we see the familiar shredding as seen on Connally shirt. Ergo the bullet struck Connally's shirt while the bullet was yawing.









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