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Re: Oliver Stone - Did he get it correct with his Movie?
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2025, 12:20:21 AM »
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Oliver Stone makes movies. Nobody regards him as a Historian. And just for the record, a house did Not fall onto a witch.

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« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2025, 04:58:30 PM »

Oliver Stone to testify at John F Kennedy assassination hearing


The director, whose film JFK has been derided by historians for suggesting the CIA had a role in the killing, will speak to task force aiming ‘to get to the bottom of this mystery’

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2025/mar/31/oliver-stone-testify-john-f-kennedy-assassination-hearing-jfk
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Re: Oliver Stone - Did he get it correct with his Movie?
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2025, 05:16:19 PM »
Oliver Stone to testify at John F Kennedy assassination hearing


The director, whose film JFK has been derided by historians for suggesting the CIA had a role in the killing, will speak to task force aiming ‘to get to the bottom of this mystery’

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2025/mar/31/oliver-stone-testify-john-f-kennedy-assassination-hearing-jfk


That makes sense to me, after all it will be April Fools Day….

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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2025, 05:23:09 PM »
  You guys underestimate Oliver Stone. After all, Stone did get it Right when he publicly proclaimed that a body double was posing as President Bill Mitchell.
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Re: Oliver Stone - Did he get it correct with his Movie?
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2025, 06:01:16 PM »
Stone is a total nutjob. The CIA had nothing to do with it, the Mafia did. Oswald fired 3 shots at JFK plus killed Officer Tippit. Only one shot came from the front.

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« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2025, 09:14:25 PM »
Stone is a total nutjob. The CIA had nothing to do with it, the Mafia did. Oswald fired 3 shots at JFK plus killed Officer Tippit. Only one shot came from the front.
Agree that Stone is a total nutjob. The fact that anyone thinks it is worth having him and his star-struck puppet Jim Di Eugenio weigh in at a hearing speaks volumes about the seriousness of the effort. Jesus. Agree that the CIA had nothing to do with it. The Mafia? Yes, it's possible, and your theory is at least at the rational end of the conspiracy spectrum.

In terms of motive and means, and even some actual evidence (Marcello, https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKmarcello.htm), the Mafia has to be at the top of the list. Several years ago, Pat Speer, surely one of the very top researchers, agreed with me on that the Mafia had the best (or worst, as the case may be) motives. It is also Larry Schnapf’s theory.

However, the issues I have are:

1. I don't believe there would have been a frontal gunman (and I don't believe there was). There would have been a Mafia-quality hitman with some sort of 6.5 rifle located somewhere that his trajectory would not be obviously inconsistent with the 6th floor of the TSBD – perhaps the roof of the Dal-Tex building (and perhaps there was!).

2. One of the Mafia’s key motives, in addition to eliminating JFK and neutralizing RFK, would have been the overthrow of Castro and the restoration of the Mafia’s lucrative resort/casino empire. While pro-Castro Oswald would have been a useful patsy for this purpose, I don’t think the Mafia would have trusted in this alone. There would have been other planted evidence pointing directly to Castro’s involvement.

3. It’s difficult to see how Oswald would have been on the Mafia’s radar screen at all, plus he seems like an awfully erratic and potentially unreliable patsy (although Marcello did speak of pinning the assassination on a "nut job"). It seems unlikely to me that the Mafia would have worked with (i.e., trusted) anyone outside the organization to recruit Oswald and convince him he was part of a pro-Castro plot. Once you start hypothesizing how the Mafia would have recruited Oswald, the plot starts to get complicated and un-Mafia-like.

4. I don't think Oswald would have lived to be arrested. If this were a Mafia hit, it would have been far cleaner in every way than the events in Dealey Plaza and the flight of Oswald. More than any of the other usual suspects, I have great confidence in the Mafia’s ability to plan and carry out a hit that would have left no clues at all.

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on what the Mafia's hit actually looked like and why.

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Re: Oliver Stone - Did he get it correct with his Movie?
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2025, 11:57:26 PM »

   No matter how "nuts" you think Oliver Stone is, remember that he does have the means/$$ to access/see "things" most of us do Not. Whether it be eyewitness accounts and/or images, never underestimate the sheer power of $$.
  And do Not think you have seen ALL of the assassination images. When NBC released the 1st :40 seconds of their Original Darnell Film about 3 months ago, I had previously Never seen the opening frame(s) showing the driver of Camera Car #2 STANDING outside of that car at the corner of Houston/Elm St. This is important as this film also shows DPD Officers Baker and Smith running in front of the TSBD. Those Camera Cars shown to be at a Dead Stop destroys the previously accepted story line that Officer Baker was inside the TSBD in :30 seconds. It took Baker longer than :30 seconds to get inside the TSBD and therefore it took him a greater period of time following the Kill Shot to encounter Oswald inside the 2nd Floor Lunchroom. The previously accepted timeline of Baker confronting Oswald inside that Lunchroom was Incorrect. The longer it took Officer Baker to confront Oswald inside that lunchroom, the longer period of time Oswald was inside that lunchroom. Baker claimed to have either seen Oswald in motion behind the vestibule door or that vestibule door swinging shut as Oswald ran inside. Oswald had plenty of time to be inside that Lunchroom well ahead of Baker. The Baker WC Testimony about seeing something moving behind the door or the door being in motion is pure  BS:. The NBC ORIGINAL Darnell Film Now proves this.

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Re: Oliver Stone - Did he get it correct with his Movie?
« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2025, 01:56:54 AM »
I don’t believe LBJ had JFK killed but aside from that, Stone was over the target.

His broader thesis that the American “Deep State” colluded in a plot to kill JFK and cover it up seems like the most logical conclusion.
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