On the Trail of Delusion, Episode 11 with Bill Brown

[Martin Weidmann]

We know for a fact that Oswald touched the rifle;

1)The FBI took a lift of Oswald's rifle and Day's first day lift showed the exact same random defects. To have 1 random matching point could be a wild coincidence, but as more and more points were discovered the chances of discovering each additional point increases by an order of magnitude, therefore Oswald touched the rifle!

The FBI evidence.



And here I made an alternating GIF showing the exact matches and if you look closely there are other matches.



2) In 1993 Vincent Scalice examined original photographs of the trigger guard prints which were taken at different exposures and in comparing these photos Scalice discovered many more ridge matches than were required for a positive result.

3) Also the absurd excuse that Oswald's dead palm touched the rifle can be equally discounted because dead men don't sweat and on the Sunday evening long before the FBI allegedly visited Oswald, the Dallas County Officials had already disclosed that a Palm print was discovered on the rifle.



JohnM

1)The FBI took a lift of Oswald's rifle

No they didn't.

Day's first day lift showed the exact same random defects.

Day only produced an evidence card with a print on it when the evidence had to be turned over to the FBI, several days after the assassination.


2) In 1993 Vincent Scalice examined original photographs of the trigger guard prints which were taken at different exposures and in comparing these photos Scalice discovered many more ridge matches than were required for a positive result.

And how do we know for sure that Vincent Scalice was given "original photographs of the trigger guard prints"? Or, for that matter, how did he obtain the prints of Oswald he compared them with?

3) Also the absurd excuse that Oswald's dead palm touched the rifle

Who claimed that it did?

[John Mytton]

1)The FBI took a lift of Oswald's rifle

No they didn't.

Day's first day lift showed the exact same random defects.

Day only produced an evidence card with a print on it when the evidence had to be turned over to the FBI, several days after the assassination.


2) In 1993 Vincent Scalice examined original photographs of the trigger guard prints which were taken at different exposures and in comparing these photos Scalice discovered many more ridge matches than were required for a positive result.

And how do we know for sure that Vincent Scalice was given "original photographs of the trigger guard prints"? Or, for that matter, how did he obtain the prints of Oswald he compared them with?

3) Also the absurd excuse that Oswald's dead palm touched the rifle

Who claimed that it did?

So the FBI manufactured their lift of the rifle?
So Day manufactured the date and his lift of the rifle?
So Scalice didn't have original photographs of Oswald's rifle and used manufactured photo's?

Hahahahahaha!

Otherwise you won't accept it because "it's possible" it was manufactured.

What piece of evidence did I claim was manufactured? Be precise.... just show me a link to one of my posts or shut up!

BTW Martin, don't ever stop being you, because from just 1 post you again prove that you are just so damn entertaining!

JohnM

[Tom Mahon]

Thank you for demonstrating so clearly that you can not provide a shred of conclusive evidence of Oswald's guilt.

You are just a waste of time....

Hundreds of thousands?

Holy Xxxx!

Rhymes with muck.

[Martin Weidmann]

So the FBI manufactured their lift of the rifle?
So Day manufactured the date and his lift of the rifle?
So Scalice didn't have original photographs of Oswald's rifle and used manufactured photo's?

Hahahahahaha!


BTW Martin, don't ever stop being you, because from just 1 post you again prove that you are just so damn entertaining!

JohnM

So the FBI manufactured their lift of the rifle?

What lift?

So Day manufactured the date and his lift of the rifle?

I don't know what Day did or did not do. All I know is that IMO his story lacks credibility.
The mere fact that he claims to have left a crucial piece of evidence in his drawer for nearly a week is beyond belief.
But I can't determine if it was sheer incompetence or if there was something else going on.

So Scalice didn't have original photographs of Oswald's rifle and used manufactured photo's?

Did I say that? All I did was ask a question which you seem to be unable to answer.
The question is justified because all the original evidence was and still is locked away at the National Archives.
So, where did those photos and a set of finger prints come from?

Oops.. I did it again. What am I thinking to ask yet another question John Mytton can't or won't answer?

I feel sorry for you, John. It's too bad that you can't distinguish between a simple question being asked and making claims.
Your inability to answer any of my questions is duly noted. So, keep on making dubious claims that you can not back up with evidence!

Btw, did you miss the part in the video where they said that a former high ranking FBI expert found the prints not clear enough to make any identification?
Which justifies the question why you would accept at face value what Scalise said, not under oath, mind you, but in a documentary?

Oops, there I go again asking questions that John will never answer..... Go figure!

[John Iacoletti]

Did the short-rifle have fibers on it that matched the fibers of the blanket, or were those fabricated / planted, too?

No, it did not.

Try again.

[John Iacoletti]

Given the fact that Oswald was seen shooting at JFK by Howard Brennan,

LOL.

Mr. McCLOY. Could you see that he had discharged the rifle?
Mr. BRENNAN. No. For some reason I did not get an echo at any time. The first shot was positive and clear and the last shot was positive and dear, with no echo on my part.
Mr. McCLOY. Yes. But you saw him aim?
Mr. BRENNAN. Yes.
Mr. McCLOY. Did you see the rifle discharge, did you see the recoil or the flash?
Mr. BRENNAN. No.
Mr. McCLOY. But you heard the last shot.
Mr. BRENNAN. The report; yes, sir.

And LOL.

that he left the TSBD without permission

As did Charles Givens and several other employees.

within 3 minutes of the shooting,

Like you know when he left.

that his prints were found on two (or was it three?) boxes in the Sniper's Nest

His job was literally getting books out of boxes.

and on the paper bag

The one you can't prove was even found on the "sniper's nest" floor, much less ever contained a rifle?  That bag?

and on his short-rifle

You mean on an index card?

What else you got?

[John Iacoletti]

We know for a fact that Oswald touched the rifle;

Indistinct smudges with numbers added to them are so compelling...

[John Iacoletti]

And how do we know for sure that Vincent Scalice was given "original photographs of the trigger guard prints"? Or, for that matter, how did he obtain the prints of Oswald he compared them with?

"Mytton" is blowing smoke, as usual.  We don't know how many "ridge" matches there were, or where they were located.  Scalice didn't publish his work.

Some photos with no provenance whatsoever were pulled out of a briefcase 30 years later.  Latona examined the actual prints on the actual rifle and said they were insufficient for purposes of effecting identification.