Which is more likely: The KGB killed JFK, or Trump is a KGB agent?

[Tom Graves]

Since you believer (sic) there was a conspiracy behind the assassination (Moscow did it) and also that Trump is a Russian agent (Moscow did it again) then I guess you need to add (c) Both of the above.

Wouldn't that be your answer?

Dear Steve M. Galbraith,

Perhaps the following will enlighten you:

1) Although the KGB officer at the Soviet Embassy in Mexico City, Ivan Obyedkov, who volunteered the Department-13 radioactive name "Kostikov" to Oswald or an Oswald impersonator over a sure-to-be-tapped-by-CIA phone line on 10/1/63 was a Kremlin-loyal triple agent (i.e., the CIA mistakenly believed it had successfully recruited him), I don't necessarily believe Oswald killed JFK for the KGB.

2) Although the *only* reason the CIA and the FBI believed Kostikov was Department 13 in the first place was because a Kremlin-loyal triple-agent, Aleksei Kulak (J. Edgar Hoover's shielded-from-CIA FEDORA at the FBI's NYC field office), had told the FBI a year earlier that Kostikov's charge at the UN, Igor Brykin, was Department 13, I don't necessarily believe Oswald killed JFK for the KGB.

3) Although Silvia Duran and Eusebio Azcue at the Cuban Consulate described the "Oswald" they'd dealt in such a way that closely matched short, blond-haired, skinny, very thin-faced, 30-something KGB Colonel / "Third Secretary and Assistant Cultural Attache" Nikolai Leonov, I don't necessarily believe Oswald killed JFK for the KGB.

4) Although a probable KGB "mole" in the CIA's mole-hunting Office of Security by the name of Bruce Leonard Solie (look him up) probably sent former Marine sharpshooter Oswald to Moscow in 1959 as an ostensible "dangle" in a mole-protecting planned-to-fail hunt for "Popov's U-2 Mole" in the wrong part of the CIA, I don't necessarily believe Oswald killed JFK for the KGB.

5) Although Oswald said he'd sliced both wrists but Boskin Hospital said just one, I don't necessarily believe he killed JFK for the KGB.

6) Although Oswald lived half-a-mile from a KGB school in Minsk for two-and-one-half years, I don't necessarily believe he killed JFK for the KGB.

7) Although KGB true defector Major Pyotr Deriabin (1954) said Marina had to be at least a low-level KGB informant and that Oswald may have been sent back to the U.S. to do something else and "gone rogue," I don't necessarily believe Oswald killed JFK for the KGB.

8 ) Although Deriabin and KGB true defector Major Anatoliy Deriabin (December 1961) said that it was the policy of the KGB for the First Chief Directorate's Department 13 (assassinations and sabotage) to interview ALL military defectors -- yet-false-defector-in-'62-and-rogue-defector-in-'64 Yuri Nosenko, who claimed to have been Oswald's case officer, said nothing about it and neither did any of the "documents" that the Kremlin so graciously gave the U.S. after the assassination, I don't necessarily believe Oswald killed JFK for the KGB.

9) Although CIA Counterintelligence analyst Clare Edward Petty determined by reading some VENONA decrypts in the early 1970s that George DeMohrenschildt was very probably a long-term KGB "illegal," I don't necessarily believe Oswald killed JFK for the KGB.

10) Etc., Etc., Etc. (I could go on and on),

What I am sure of is that, as part of its 1959-on strategy of trying to get us to tear ourselves apart by waging Sun Tzu-like disinformation, "active measures," and strategic deception counterintelligence operations against us and our NATO allies, the KGB* has made so much "hay" from the anomaly-replete JFKA over the past sixty-two years that the conspiracy theories it has promulgated about that tragic event (and the HIV/AIDs epidemic, The Crack Cocaine Explosion in "The Ghetto," "Vaccinations Cause Autism," The Moon Landings, 9/11, Hillary's Server, etc., etc., etc.), enabled "former" KGB counterintelligence officer Vladimir Putin, with help from his professional IRA trolls, Paul Manafort, GRU officer Konstantin Kilimnik, Oleg Deripaska, Roger Stone, and Harley Schlanger (look him up), et al. ad nauseam, to install The Traitorous Orange Bird known as Donald J. Trump as our "President" in 2017 and 2025 . . . and now he's doing a bang-up job of destroying our country.

*Today's SVR and FSB

-- Tom

[Jon Banks]

Dear Steven,

Although the KGB officer at the Soviet Embassy in Mexico City, Ivan Obyedkov, who volunteered the Department-13 radioactive name "Kostikov" to Oswald or an Oswald impersonator over a sure-to-be-tapped-by-CIA phone line on 10/1/63 was a Kremlin-loyal triple agent (i.e., the CIA mistakenly believed it had successfully recruited him), and although the only reason the CIA and the FBI believed Kostikov was Department 13 on 11/23/63 was because a Kremlin-loyal triple-agent, Aleksei Kulak (J. Edgar Hoover's shielded-from-CIA FEDORA at the FBI's NYC field office), had told the FBI a year earlier that Kostikov's charge at the UN, Igor Brykin, was Department 13, and although Silvia Duran and Eusebio Azcue at the Cuban Consulate described the "Oswald" they'd dealt in such a way that closely matched KGB Colonel / "Second Secretary and Assistant Cultural Attache" Nikolai Leonov, and although a probable KGB "mole" in the CIA's mole-hunting Office of Security by the name of Bruce Leonard Solie (look him up) had probably sent Oswald to Moscow in 1959 as an ostensible "dangle" in a mole-protecting planned-to-fail hunt for "Popov's U-2 Mole" in the wrong part of the CIA, and although Oswald said he'd sliced both wrists but Boskin Hospital said just one, and although Oswald lived half-a-mile from a KGB school in Minsk for two-and-one-half years, and although KGB true defector Major Pyotr Deriabin (1954) said Marina had to be at least a low-level KGB informant and that Oswald may have been sent back to the U.S. to do something else and "gone rogue," and although Deriabin and KGB true defector Major Anatoliy Deriabin said that it was the policy of the KGB for the First Chief Directorate's Department 13 (assassinations and sabotage) to interview ALL military defectors -- yet-false-defector-in-'62-and-rogue-defector-in-'64 Yuri Nosenko, who claimed to have been Oswald's case officer, said nothing about it (and neither did the "documents" that the Kremlin so graciously gave the U.S. after the assassination) -- and although CIA Counterintelligence analyst Clare Edward Petty determined by reading some VENONA decrypts in the early 1970s that George DeMohrenschildt was very probably a long-term KGB "illegal," etc, etc, (I could go on and on), it doesn't necessarily mean that I think self-described Marxist Oswald killed JFK for the KGB.

What I am sure of, however, is that the KGB* has made so much "hay" from the anomaly-replete JFKA over the past sixty-two years (see above) that the conspiracy theories it promulgated about that tragic event (as well as the HIV/AIDs epidemic, The Crack Cocaine Explosion in "The Ghetto," The Moon Landings, 9/11, Hillary's Server, and [fill in the blank]) enabled Vladimir Putin, his IRA professional trolls, GRU officer Konstantin Kilimnik, Oleg Deripaska, and hordes of "useful idiots," et al., to install The Traitorous Orange Bird as our "President" in 2017 and 2025.

*Today's SVR and FSB

-- Tom

The Soviets made a big deal about racial discrimination in the US prior to the Civil Rights bills being passed in the 1960s.

Does that mean the US didn't legitimately have problems with racial discrimination?
Does that mean MLK Jr and everyone else who marched for Civil Rights in America were useful idiots for the KGB?

Who am I kidding? Given how Russian bots boosted social media posts about BLM and George Floyd, you probably believe Black Lives Matter was a KGB psy-op too. 

The fallacy in your logic is that there's some truth to some domestic problems that our adversaries choose to amplify.

The CIA absolutely has a history of involvement with drug trafficking and likely played a role in the Crack epidemic in the 1980s.

Hillary Clinton absolutely shouldn't have used her private email for State Department communications.

A plausible argument can be made that JFK was assassinated by a conspiracy involving people with connections to the US intel community.

Factual or true information can be used for Propaganda purposes. The term "Propaganda" doesn't always imply that the information is false...

[Tom Graves]

The Soviets made a big deal about racial discrimination in the US prior to the Civil Rights bills being passed in the 1960s.

Does that mean the US didn't legitimately have problems with racial discrimination?
Does that mean MLK Jr and everyone else who marched for Civil Rights in America were useful idiots for the KGB?

The fallacy in your logic is that there's some truth to some domestic problems that our adversaries choose to amplify.

The CIA absolutely has a history of involvement with drug trafficking and likely played a role in the Crack epidemic in the 1980s.

Hillary Clinton absolutely shouldn't have used her private email for State Department communications.

A plausible argument can be made that JFK was assassinated by a conspiracy involving people with connections to the US intel community.

Factual or true information can be used for Propaganda purposes. The term "Propaganda" doesn't always imply that the information is false...

Dear Self-Described "Leftist," Banks,

Of course, your beloved KGB has strived to exacerbate our own weaknesses and divisions, e.g., Civil Rights and Drug Addiction, and especially since 1959 when it set up Department D in the First Chief Directorate -- today's SVR -- and Department 14 in the Second Chief Directorate -- today's FSB.

You should start reading my 280-plus free-to-read articles at Substack under my banner, "How the KGB Zombified the CIA and the FBI," and actually learn something for a change.

I'm finished with you until you do, Left Bank, so rant-on if that's what really gets you off.

-- Tom

[Jon Banks]

Dear Self-Described "Leftist," Banks,

Of course, your beloved KGB has strived to exacerbate our own weaknesses and divisions, e.g., Civil Rights and Drug Addiction, and especially since 1959 when it set up Department D in the First Chief Directorate -- today's SVR -- and Department 14 in the Second Chief Directorate -- today's FSB.

As I explained, I'm aware of that. But it doesn't mean the stuff they amplify is "completely false". Some of the examples you raised have some truth.

Regardless of Russia's attempts to amplify JFK conspiracy theories, none of that is why Americans who view the Zapruder film or learn that LHO was assassinated in police custody by mob-affiliated Jack Ruby, believe that there was a conspiracy.

You can't expect people "not to believe their lying eyes" even though what we see with our eyes isn't always reality or the truth. Most people trust their own intuition.

FYI, I find it plausible that LHO acted alone but I don't see how anyone can be 100% certain given all the weird stuff in the JFK assassination investigations.

I consider myself more than 50% (but not 100%) convinced that there was a conspiracy and it has zero to do with "Russian propaganda".

You should start reading my 280-plus free-to-read articles at Substack under my banner, "How the KGB Zombified the CIA and the FBI," and actually learn something for a change.

I'm finished with you until you do, Left Bank, so rant-on if that's what really gets you off.

-- Tom

^Wow. I got the Troll to make a Surrender post! We're done when I say we're done.   

And no, I'm not going to give your blog or Fred's clicks. If you want clicks, stop publishing BS...

[Tom Graves]

Does that answer your question, Steve?

[Tom Graves]

Dear Steve M. Galbraith,

Although  . . .

1) the KGB officer at the Soviet Embassy in Mexico City, Ivan Obyedkov, who volunteered the Department-13 radioactive name "Kostikov" to Oswald or an Oswald impersonator over a sure-to-be-tapped-by-CIA phone line on 10/1/63 was a Kremlin-loyal triple agent (i.e., the CIA mistakenly believed it had successfully recruited him), and

2) although the *only* reason the CIA and the FBI believed Kostikov was Department 13 in the first place was because a Kremlin-loyal triple-agent, Aleksei Kulak (J. Edgar Hoover's shielded-from-CIA FEDORA at the FBI's NYC field office), had told the FBI a year earlier that Kostikov's charge at the UN, Igor Brykin, was Department 13, and

3) although Silvia Duran and Eusebio Azcue at the Cuban Consulate described the "Oswald" they'd dealt in such a way that closely matched KGB Colonel / "Third Secretary and Assistant Cultural Attache" Nikolai Leonov, and

4) although a probable KGB "mole" in the CIA's mole-hunting Office of Security by the name of Bruce Leonard Solie (look him up) had probably sent Oswald to Moscow in 1959 as an ostensible "dangle" in a mole-protecting planned-to-fail hunt for "Popov's U-2 Mole" in the wrong part of the CIA, and

5) although Oswald said he'd sliced both wrists but Boskin Hospital said just one, and

6) although Oswald lived half-a-mile from a KGB school in Minsk for two-and-one-half years, and

7) although KGB true defector Major Pyotr Deriabin (1954) said Marina had to be at least a low-level KGB informant and that Oswald may have been sent back to the U.S. to do something else and "gone rogue," and

8 ) although Deriabin and KGB true defector Major Anatoliy Deriabin (December 1961) said that it was the policy of the KGB for the First Chief Directorate's Department 13 (assassinations and sabotage) to interview ALL military defectors -- yet-false-defector-in-'62-and-rogue-defector-in-'64 Yuri Nosenko, who claimed to have been Oswald's case officer, said nothing about it and neither did any of the "documents" that the Kremlin so graciously gave the U.S. after the assassination, and

9) although CIA Counterintelligence analyst Clare Edward Petty determined by reading some VENONA decrypts in the early 1970s that George DeMohrenschildt was very probably a long-term KGB "illegal,"

10) etc, etc, (I could go on and on),

it doesn't necessarily mean that I think self-described Marxist Oswald killed JFK for the KGB.

What I am sure of, however, is that the KGB* has made so much "hay" from the anomaly-replete JFKA over the past sixty-two years (see above) that the conspiracy theories it promulgated about that tragic event (as well as the HIV/AIDs epidemic, The Crack Cocaine Explosion in "The Ghetto," The Moon Landings, 9/11, Hillary's Server, and [fill in the blank]) enabled Vladimir Putin, his IRA professional trolls, GRU officer Konstantin Kilimnik, Oleg Deripaska, et al., and hordes of "useful idiots" to install The Traitorous Orange Bird as our "President" in 2017 and 2025.

*Today's SVR and FSB

-- Tom

[Tom Graves]

Dear Steve M. Galbraith,

Although  . . .

1) the KGB officer at the Soviet Embassy in Mexico City, Ivan Obyedkov, who volunteered the Department-13 radioactive name "Kostikov" to Oswald or an Oswald impersonator over a sure-to-be-tapped-by-CIA phone line on 10/1/63 was a Kremlin-loyal triple agent (i.e., the CIA mistakenly believed it had successfully recruited him), and

2) although the *only* reason the CIA and the FBI believed Kostikov was Department 13 in the first place was because a Kremlin-loyal triple-agent, Aleksei Kulak (J. Edgar Hoover's shielded-from-CIA FEDORA at the FBI's NYC field office), had told the FBI a year earlier that Kostikov's charge at the UN, Igor Brykin, was Department 13, and

3) although Silvia Duran and Eusebio Azcue at the Cuban Consulate described the "Oswald" they'd dealt in such a way that closely matched KGB Colonel / "Third Secretary and Assistant Cultural Attache" Nikolai Leonov, and

4) although a probable KGB "mole" in the CIA's mole-hunting Office of Security by the name of Bruce Leonard Solie (look him up) had probably sent Oswald to Moscow in 1959 as an ostensible "dangle" in a mole-protecting planned-to-fail hunt for "Popov's U-2 Mole" in the wrong part of the CIA, and

5) although Oswald said he'd sliced both wrists but Boskin Hospital said just one, and

6) although Oswald lived half-a-mile from a KGB school in Minsk for two-and-one-half years, and

7) although KGB true defector Major Pyotr Deriabin (1954) said Marina had to be at least a low-level KGB informant and that Oswald may have been sent back to the U.S. to do something else and "gone rogue," and

8 ) although Deriabin and KGB true defector Major Anatoliy Deriabin (December 1961) said that it was the policy of the KGB for the First Chief Directorate's Department 13 (assassinations and sabotage) to interview ALL military defectors -- yet-false-defector-in-'62-and-rogue-defector-in-'64 Yuri Nosenko, who claimed to have been Oswald's case officer, said nothing about it and neither did any of the "documents" that the Kremlin so graciously gave the U.S. after the assassination, and

9) although CIA Counterintelligence analyst Clare Edward Petty determined by reading some VENONA decrypts in the early 1970s that George DeMohrenschildt was very probably a long-term KGB "illegal,"

10) etc, etc, (I could go on and on),

it doesn't necessarily mean that I think self-described Marxist Oswald killed JFK for the KGB.

What I am sure of, however, is that the KGB* has made so much "hay" from the anomaly-replete JFKA over the past sixty-two years (see above) that the conspiracy theories it promulgated about that tragic event (as well as the HIV/AIDs epidemic, The Crack Cocaine Explosion in "The Ghetto," The Moon Landings, 9/11, Hillary's Server, and [fill in the blank]) enabled Vladimir Putin, his IRA professional trolls, GRU officer Konstantin Kilimnik, Oleg Deripaska, et al., and hordes of "useful idiots" to install The Traitorous Orange Bird as our "President" in 2017 and 2025.

*Today's SVR and FSB

-- Tom

Still waiting for Steve M.'s reply . . .