If I had planned the conspiracy ...

[Tom Mahon]

Translation from LN-speak:

Gubmint said it, I believe it, and that settles it.

Speaking of "the functional equivalent of a fundamentalist religion"...

Do you disbelieve everything the government said in 1964?

[John Iacoletti]

He's gone from demanding "credible evidence" to now demanding "conclusive evidence." We don't use that standard in a court of law much less a court of history.

We do use that as a standard for accepting any particular claim as being true.  Why should the LN dogma be treated any differently?

And there is no such thing as a "court of history".

[Tom Mahon]

We do use that as a standard for accepting any particular claim as being true.  Why should the LN dogma be treated any differently?

And there is no such thing as a "court of history".

Why do you call what Lone Gunman Advocates think about the JFKA "dogma"?

[John Iacoletti]

You know full well that Klein's didn't save the ORIGINAL documents for any of the orders it filled in 1963. When they received an order, all of the paperwork connected with that order was transferred to microfilm for easy compact storage. (You surely don't think the idea of storing orders on microfilm is "suspicious" or "conspiratorial" in some fashion, do you?)

Do you or do you not agree that you cannot get reliable handwriting analysis results from a tiny sample on a copy?

If you need an "expert" to say so, how about David J. Purtell, who wrote this for the HSCA:

"Document examiners only render a qualified or conditional opinion when working from copies. They stipulate that they have to examine the original before a definite opinion will be made."

[John Iacoletti]

My question: What's your definition of "authentication" in the context of the evidence against Oswald?

Authentication is a well-understood concept.  It's a way to ensure to the best of your ability that evidence you are relying on is what it is purported to be and that it has not been tampered with.  It's the entire reason that chains-of-custody and crime scene and evidence handling protocols are a thing.

[Martin Weidmann]

Do you or do you not agree that you cannot get reliable handwriting analysis results from a tiny sample on a copy?

If you need an "expert" to say so, how about David J. Purtell, who wrote this for the HSCA:

"Document examiners only render a qualified or conditional opinion when working from copies. They stipulate that they have to examine the original before a definite opinion will be made."

"Document examiners only render a qualified or conditional opinion when working from copies. They stipulate that they have to examine the original before a definite opinion will be made."

Which is exactly why I constantly say that the only thing that seems to connect Oswald to the Klein's transaction or the C2766 rifle is the opinion of an FBI expert, who is not going to step on Hoover's toes.

[John Iacoletti]

Yep, the HSCA expert proved beyond all doubt that Oswald's rifle(C2766) that was directly linked to the fragments discovered in JFK's limo and found on the 6th floor of the Depository where Oswald worked, was being held by Oswald in the backyard of Oswald's apartment on Neely Street!

 

Mr. FITHIAN . Then I take it, it is your testimony that the chip or the defect is sufficiently unique, with the corners or whatever, that spotting it in each of the pictures at least gives you the confidence that that rifle you are holding is the rifle that was photographed?
Sergeant KIRK. When I match that up with the scientific data Mr. McCamy has obtained from measuring it, this has to tilt the scales in the direction, yes, indeed it is the same rifle .

That is not "proved beyond all doubt".  It's not even beyond a reasonable doubt.

Also consider that Oswald lied to the Dallas Police that he lived on Neely Street, Hmmm I wonder why?

You don't know what Oswald said.

Another interesting factoid is that the backyard photos were taken shortly after Kleins sent C2766

You don't know if or when C2766 was "sent".

and just before Oswald used C2766 in an attempt to assassinate General Walker.

LOL.

[John Iacoletti]

Here we go again, so not only did the secret service agents lie and plant evidence, but the Dallas Police also lied about different pieces evidence, what pray tell is your connection between these vastly different law enforcement agencies and where does all your suspicions lead, surely by now you must have some inkling about who was the grand mastermind with all this power who was behind the assassination, well?

Are you looking to wrest the world title away from Strawman "Smith"?

Why in the world would you believe with no evidence whatsoever that the fragments that were handed to Robert Frazier in Washington by Orrin Bartlett were ever in the limousine or had anything to do with the assassination?

Faith?