Users Currently Browsing This Topic:
Mitch Todd

Author Topic: If I Had Planned The Conspiracy ...  (Read 68151 times)

Online Tom Graves

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 862
Re: If I had planned the conspiracy ...
« Reply #432 on: April 14, 2025, 04:36:04 AM »
Advertisement
And the fact that the revolver in evidence is the exact same one that Oswald purchased! Ouch!



BTW if you were going to setup Oswald wouldn't you use a revolver that fires bullets that could be exclusively matched to the recovered bullets?! Stupid conspirators!

JohnM

You don't seem to understand!

Oodles and gobs of evil, evil people were involved!

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: If I had planned the conspiracy ...
« Reply #432 on: April 14, 2025, 04:36:04 AM »


Online Martin Weidmann

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7810
Re: If I had planned the conspiracy ...
« Reply #433 on: April 14, 2025, 05:51:13 PM »
And the fact that the revolver in evidence is the exact same one that Oswald purchased! Ouch!



BTW if you were going to setup Oswald wouldn't you use a revolver that fires bullets that could be exclusively matched to the recovered bullets?! Stupid conspirators!

JohnM

And the fact that the revolver in evidence is the exact same one that Oswald purchased! Ouch!

That's not a fact. What is a fact is the the revolver now in evidence is the same one Oswald allegedly ordered according to an FBI handwriting expert.

The revolver was allegedly shipped c.o.d. with an outstanding balance of $19,95 still to be paid. There is no proof whatsoever that the balance was ever paid or that Oswald was the one who collected the revolver.


Offline John Iacoletti

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11207
Re: If I had planned the conspiracy ...
« Reply #434 on: April 15, 2025, 11:58:58 PM »
First, I provided evidence for my claim.

No you didn't.  Speculation is not evidence.

Quote
Second, Martin's current positions is this: Hill made off with the revolver by himself for some period of time before it was turned into the Homicide squad. He hasn't provided any evidence for this happening,

Strawman.  Martin never claimed anything of the kind.

Quote
Third, Carroll is the first Police Officer that can be shown to had uncontested possession of the pistol. This is not true for McDonald. So he is the first to have unambiguous custody of it.

Made-up BS.  All of these "possessions" are contested as undemonstrable.

Quote
As for your statement that Carroll "didn’t even know whose hand he grabbed it from," we don't just have Carroll's word for it. Carroll said that he grabbed it after he saw someone hold it towards him from out of the scrum. McDonald said he held it out of the scrum and "gave" it to Carroll.

And did he "know" this before talking to Carroll later?  Unknown and unknowable.

Quote
Carroll said he received only one gun from the scrum. McDonald also did not mention giving a second gun to any one. No one reported a second gun or two guns being involved in the scuffle. The logical upshot is Carroll got the gun from McDonald, whether or not Carroll recognized who he seized it from. Carroll giving the gun to Hill doesn't change this. It just adds Hill to the chain of custody. And it especially doesn't matter if Carrol remains with Hill.

This is all blather to try to excuse away a lack of a chain of custody.  It still remains that McDonald was the only one who could establish that a gun was ever in the possession of Oswald, and he had no basis for identifying the gun Hill pulled out of his pocket hours later as the same gun.  Apparently the cops were more interested in playing a game of "hot potato" than they were in the provenance of evidence.
« Last Edit: Today at 12:04:46 AM by John Iacoletti »

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: If I had planned the conspiracy ...
« Reply #434 on: April 15, 2025, 11:58:58 PM »


Offline John Iacoletti

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11207
Re: If I had planned the conspiracy ...
« Reply #435 on: Today at 12:00:16 AM »
Unbelievable, just give it up Iacoletti, your argument is worthless and has failed!

McDonald took the revolver from Oswald.
McDonald gave the revolver to Carroll.
Carroll gave the revolver to Hill.
Hill kept the revolver on his person till he put his name on it.

Cool story, bro.  Having a cool story does not demonstrate that it is actually true.

Offline John Iacoletti

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11207
Re: If I had planned the conspiracy ...
« Reply #436 on: Today at 12:03:54 AM »
And the fact that the revolver in evidence is the exact same one that Oswald purchased! Ouch!

"Oswald purchased".  LOL.

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: If I had planned the conspiracy ...
« Reply #436 on: Today at 12:03:54 AM »