If I Had Planned The Conspiracy ...

[John Iacoletti]

"I doubt that Ford, for one, knew the exact location of the back/neck wound. I think he recognized that the sentence as written couldn't possibly be right since there's nothing "in the back slightly above the shoulders." By definition, above the shoulders is "neck." Ford tried to correct it and made matters worse. One thing I feel certain of is that there was no rational motive for anyone to "raise" the back wound. Moving it to the neck doesn't support the SBT, no matter what suspicion may tell you. An entry in the neck would destroy the SBT trajectory."-- Jean Davison; Dec. 5, 2014

Sibert-O'Neill report says "below the shoulders".

[Martin Weidmann]

You've been doing that since the beginning. Why stop now? 

So, you can't show at all that Carroll stayed with Hill and the revolver all the time, as you previously claimed?

Thanks for clearing that up! 

[John Iacoletti]

That being said, where did you get that notion that Hill just up and disappeared with the pistol?

There you go trying to shift the burden again.

Your analysis reveals that your claim that the gun remained in Carroll's presence the entire time is merely an assumption that you have no justification for. Carroll didn't say that and Hill didn't say that.  Not that it matters because neither Carroll nor Hill knew that any particular gun was ever in the possession of Oswald.

[Lance Payette]

OK, conspiracy fans, I've gone back to the drawing board.

Here is what seems to me like a reasonably evidence-based, genuinely simple conspiracy theory that even a Fair & Reasonable Provisional Lone Nutter (F&RPLNer, my new category) can love. The only downside is that it isn’t sexy enough for the agenda-drive CTers who demand that LBJ and the CIA, FBI, DPD and Oodles and Gobs of Others be involved.

1. It’s a fully pro-Castro conspiracy. Oswald is no patsy.
2. On September 9, Oswald sees a newspaper article reporting Castro’s September 7 speech denouncing JFK and the CIA for plotting his assassination.
3. JFK’s trip to Texas is announced to the Dallas Morning News on September 25 and reported by them on September 26. The dates of November 21-22 and the inclusion of Dallas are part of the announcement.
4. Oswald arrives in Mexico City on September 27. Despite the apparent failure of the trip, he makes connections with other pro-Castro types and a possible assassination of JFK may have been mentioned, possibly even at the Cuban or Soviet Embassy.
5. Oswald returns to Dallas and begins to look for work. On October 16, he starts work at the TSBD. Perhaps an assassination plan begins to be formulated with another pro-Castro type since they know JFK will be in Dallas.
6. JFK’s motorcade route is published no later than November 19. Oswald now knows he’ll be sitting in the catbird seat on November 22. He contacts his assassination partner and they agree it’s a go.
7. They scout the area and decide the partner will be in or on the roof of the Dal-Tex Building, which is the same height as the TSBD. It’s perfect.
8. At the appointed time, both fire at JFK. Hence the witness testimony of two shots close together. Oswald’s first shot is the back wound, his second the one that hits Connally; he’s low and to the right on both shots. His partner fires the head shot.
9. They have agreed each is on his own after the assassination. They will rendezvous at the Texas Theater, wait a reasonable time, and make their way to Mexico. Oswald makes his way to the theater, as does his partner – or perhaps the partner sees the activity at the theater and vanishes.
10. Once arrested, there is nothing to be gained for Oswald by revealing the plot, so he adopts an uncooperative attitude and the partner forever remains an unknown.

Not perfect, I’ll admit, which is why I remain a F&RPLNer. But certainly more realistic and consistent with the evidence than the more elaborate Oswald-as-patsy, massive-cover-up theories.

Or, since we’re not trying to fool anyone with a patsy, perhaps the partner is on the Grassy Knoll and the head shot is indeed a frontal one. I prefer the Dal-Tex Building, however, because the risks would be fewer and an escape much easier.

[Tom Graves]

OK, conspiracy fans, I've gone back to the drawing board.

Here is what seems to me like a reasonably evidence-based, genuinely simple conspiracy theory that even a Fair & Reasonable Provisional Lone Nutter (F&RPLNer, my new category) can love. The only downside is that it isn’t sexy enough for the agenda-drive CTers who demand that LBJ and the CIA, FBI, DPD and Oodles and Gobs of Others be involved.

1. It’s a fully pro-Castro conspiracy. Oswald is no patsy.
2. On September 9, Oswald sees a newspaper article reporting Castro’s September 7 speech denouncing JFK and the CIA for plotting his assassination.
3. JFK’s trip to Texas is announced to the Dallas Morning News on September 25 and reported by them on September 26. The dates of November 21-22 and the inclusion of Dallas are part of the announcement.
4. Oswald arrives in Mexico City on September 27. Despite the apparent failure of the trip, he makes connections with other pro-Castro types and a possible assassination of JFK may have been mentioned, possibly even at the Cuban or Soviet Embassy.
5. Oswald returns to Dallas and begins to look for work. On October 16, he starts work at the TSBD. Perhaps an assassination plan begins to be formulated with another pro-Castro type since they know JFK will be in Dallas.
6. JFK’s motorcade route is published no later than November 19. Oswald now knows he’ll be sitting in the catbird seat on November 22. He contacts his assassination partner and they agree it’s a go.
7. They scout the area and decide the partner will be in or on the roof of the Dal-Tex Building, which is the same height as the TSBD. It’s perfect.
8. At the appointed time, both fire at JFK. Hence the witness testimony of two shots close together. Oswald’s first shot is the back wound, his second the one that hits Connally; he’s low and to the right on both shots. His partner fires the head shot.
9. They have agreed each is on his own after the assassination. They will rendezvous at the Texas Theater, wait a reasonable time, and make their way to Mexico. Oswald makes his way to the theater, as does his partner – or perhaps the partner sees the activity at the theater and vanishes.
10. Once arrested, there is nothing to be gained for Oswald by revealing the plot, so he adopts an uncooperative attitude and the partner forever remains an unknown.

Not perfect, I’ll admit, which is why I remain a F&RPLNer. But certainly more realistic and consistent with the evidence than the more elaborate Oswald-as-patsy, massive-cover-up theories.

Or, since we’re not trying to fool anyone with a patsy, perhaps the partner is on the Grassy Knoll and the head shot is indeed a frontal one. I prefer the Dal-Tex Building, however, because the risks would be fewer and an escape much easier.

Why do you think the SBT is doubtful enough to encourage your theory?

[Lance Payette]

Why do you think the SBT is sufficiently doubtful as to encourage your theory?

I don't, but since it's a given for my theory that there WAS a conspiracy, I may as well eliminate the SBT while I'm at it. With a second gunman in the Dal-Tex Building, we don't need the SBT. I may be misremembering, but wasn't a large caliber shell found on the roof of the Dal-Tex Building by a roofing crew long after the JFKA? I always found that puzzling.

We can also include the KGB as a silent partner if you like.

[Mitch Todd]

MW: So, I'll just assume that his claim is bogus.

MT: You've been doing that since the beginning. Why stop now?

So, you can't show at all that Carroll stayed with Hill and the revolver all the time, as you previously claimed?

Thanks for clearing that up! 

I didn't say that. Either you're misreading or misrepresenting what I said. I said you've refused to believe me from the get go before anything was presented. It's just matter of habit rather than evidence or reason.

BTW, you noticed that I answered your question in the post just before the one you replied to, didn't you?

[Mitch Todd]

There you go trying to shift the burden again.

Your analysis reveals that your claim that the gun remained in Carroll's presence the entire time is merely an assumption that you have no justification for. Carroll didn't say that and Hill didn't say that.  Not that it matters because neither Carroll nor Hill knew that any particular gun was ever in the possession of Oswald.

You don't seem to understand what "shifting the burden" is. I would have been shifting the burden had I responded with "no, you prove that Carroll wasn't in the PB office." But that's not what I said. I asked him a different question: where did he get the idea that Hill just R-U-N-N-O-F-T with the revolver? He brought that notion up well before I brought Carroll into this, and so far hasn't provided any explanation where the notion came from. He brought it up, and should be able to explain where the idea came from.

Some skeptic you are, kid.