MW: I never said that Hill "just R-U-N-N-O-F-T" with the revolver.
Au contraire! It's exactly what you're arguing when you say things like "what destroys your argument completely is the fact that Hill was photographed showing a revolver to reporters and Carroll is nowhere to be seen!" Admittedly, I was being hyperbolic and a bit facetious with the O Brother Where Art Thou reference, which seems to have caused some confusion.
MT: we don't know where the revolver was between those two times or that the revolver submitted to the evidence room was the same as the one Hill received from Carroll.
But we do. Carroll gave the revolver to Hill. Hill and Carroll carried it with them to the third floor of the Dallas Municipal building, first to the Homicide Bureau office, then to the Personnel office. There, it was turned over to a detective from the Homicide squad who had been summoned to the Personnel office at Westbrook's request. Homicide forwarded the pistol to the ID Bureau via Davenport. The length of time Hill and Carroll had the pistol in the Personnel office with Hill and Carroll is simply a non issue.
Carroll gave the revolver to Hill. Hill and Carroll carried it with them to the third floor of the Dallas Municipal building, first to the Homicide Bureau office, then to the Personnel office. There, it was turned over to a detective from the Homicide squad who had been summoned to the Personnel office at Westbrook's request. Homicide forwarded the pistol to the ID Bureau via Davenport. The length of time Hill and Carroll had the pistol in the Personnel office with Hill and Carroll is simply a non issue. Here we go again.
Yes, Carroll gave
a revolver to Hill, as they were leaving the Texas Theater. By his own admission, Carroll didn't know who "gave" him that particular revolver, which means that he can only assume it was the revolver that Oswald was carrying.
Hill received
a revolver from Carroll and was told by the latter that it was Oswald's, which, again, was merely an assumption on Carroll's part.
Now, you can argue that it's the most likely scenario that McDonald did in fact take a revolver from Oswald and gave it to Carroll and you can argue that Carroll's claim that it was Oswald's revolver was a reasonable assumption, but none of that is significant for the chain of custody as the sole purpose of a chain of custody is to
guarantee that the item taken from the suspect is the same as the one later presented in court.
So, let's carry on with Hill, who is walking around with
a revolver that was given to him while
being told it belonged to the suspect without having any possible way to verify that information. Obviously, as he knows Carroll, he is going to trust him, but trusting isn't knowing!
Then, to make matters worse, Hill omitted to deliver the revolver to the evidence room directly after his arrival at the police station, which is another violation of the chain of custody rules. Instead he carried the revolver around with him for more than an hour, even showing it to reporters, and we only have his word for it that he took it to the Homicide Bureau office and then the Personnel office. All we really know for a fact is that Hill showed up at the Personnel office and told the people present there that this was Oswald's revolver. So, McDonald and Carroll just accepted what Hill said as the truth without being able to verify it.
In a previous reply to John Iacoletti, you wrote;
Martin's current positions is this: Hill made off with the revolver by himself for some period of time before it was turned into the Homicide squad. He hasn't provided any evidence for this happening,I don't have to provide evidence for it, because it is a matter of fact. Hill arrived at the Police station at around 2 PM and the revolver wasn't submitted to the evidence room until 3.15 PM. It's really as simple as that. Where was Hill and the revolver for more than an hour? And before you go there.... I know what he said about where he was, but this "cop said" stuff is exactly why a chain of custody is required! Remember the O.J. Simpson trial and the vial of blood that Dennis Fung carried around with him?
But there is more. The next question is; McDonald was fighting with Oswald and suddenly had a revolver in his hand which he says he passed to Carroll. Carroll testified that he stuck the revolver in his belt and took it out again when he entered the car and gave it to Hill. There is no way IMO that McDonald and Carroll had a sufficiently good look at the revolver to be able to identify it more than an hour later. Ergo; McDonald and Carroll marked a revolver based on what Hill told them.
You failed to answer the second part of my question! How can we say with any certainty that the revolver submitted to the evidence room was the same one Hill received from Carroll or for that matter the same one McDonald claims to have taken from Oswald?
Let me gues.... because "a cop said so", right?
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