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Offline Jake Maxwell

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Does anyone have a list of questionable deaths of witnesses possibly related to the assassination?

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Offline Lance Payette

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Let's pretend we're sane and start with Mysterious Non-Deaths:

1. Ruth Paine
2. Michael Paine
3. Roy Truly
4. Bill Shelley
5. Buell Frazier
6. Lots and lots of others.

Geez, that's no fun, is it?

Offline Tom Sorensen

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Let's pretend we're sane and start with Mysterious Non-Deaths:

1. Ruth Paine
2. Michael Paine
3. Roy Truly
4. Bill Shelley
5. Buell Frazier
6. Lots and lots of others.

Geez, that's no fun, is it?

Both Truly and Shelley died.

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Offline John Mytton

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Both Truly and Shelley died.

You do realize that if Truly was alive today he'd be 118 years old and Shelley would be 99 years old!

Both men survived decades after the event and lived into their 70's, but did you expect the geriatric Death Squad to break into their nursing homes and silence them? ROFL!

JohnM

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You do realize that if Truly was alive today he'd be 118 years old and Shelley would be 99 years old!

Both men survived decades after the event and lived into their 70's, but did you expect the geriatric Death Squad to break into their nursing homes and silence them? ROFL!

JohnM

My reply clearly went over your head. You're looking like a complete fool now. Thanks!

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Offline Lance Payette

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You do realize that if Truly was alive today he'd be 118 years old and Shelley would be 99 years old!

Both men survived decades after the event and lived into their 70's, but did you expect the geriatric Death Squad to break into their nursing homes and silence them? ROFL!

JohnM
Far from missing my point, John, you are the one who understood it. Yes, I am sufficiently well-informed to know that Michael Paine, Truly and Shelley are deceased. The point being the one you recognize: they, and umpteen others who figure prominently in Conspiracy World, lived long after the JFKA. Truly died in 1985, Shelley in 1996 and Paine in 2018. As I asked in another thread, what sense does it make for Ruth Paine to still be alive at 92, having been a veritable fount of interviews and appearances for the past six decades? She could be trusted but Lee Bowers and Dorothy Kilgallen had to be eliminated? Really? For Ruth to still be alive makes no sense AT ALL if you believe that a myriad of mostly bit players were "mysteriously rubbed out" because they "knew too much." It's absolutely classic Conspiracy Logic - i.e., it Makes No Sense Whatsoever unless one locked into the bizarre mindset of Conspiracy Think.

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Far from missing my point, John, you are the one who understood it. Yes, I am sufficiently well-informed to know that Michael Paine, Truly and Shelley are deceased. The point being the one you recognize: they, and umpteen others who figure prominently in Conspiracy World, lived long after the JFKA. Truly died in 1985, Shelley in 1996 and Paine in 2018. As I asked in another thread, what sense does it make for Ruth Paine to still be alive at 92, having been a veritable fount of interviews and appearances for the past six decades? She could be trusted but Lee Bowers and Dorothy Kilgallen had to be eliminated? Really? For Ruth to still be alive makes no sense AT ALL if you believe that a myriad of mostly bit players were "mysteriously rubbed out" because they "knew too much." It's absolutely classic Conspiracy Logic - i.e., it Makes No Sense Whatsoever unless one locked into the bizarre mindset of Conspiracy Think.

So you started a new thread under the same implicit, ridiculous presumption that the only criteria for bumping witnesses off is that they "knew too much," whatever that is supposed to mean. If this actually is the case, why don't you cite your source?
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Offline Jake Maxwell

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So you started a new thread under the same implicit, ridiculous presumption that the only criteria for bumping witnesses off is that they "knew too much," whatever that is supposed to mean. If this actually is the case, why don't you cite your source?

It's pretty much common knowledge that there have been questions raised over the years about mysterious deaths of "witnesses"...

Here's what ChapGPT has to say:


Yes, over the years, there have been numerous claims that witnesses connected to the JFK assassination died under mysterious or suspicious circumstances. While some of these deaths were natural, accidental, or coincidental, others have fueled conspiracy theories.
Notable Cases of Allegedly Mysterious Deaths:
Dorothy Kilgallen (1965) – A journalist who was investigating the assassination, she was found dead in her apartment under circumstances that some believe were suspicious. The official cause was an overdose of alcohol and barbiturates.
David Ferrie (1967) – A former associate of Lee Harvey Oswald and an investigator for New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison, Ferrie died from a supposed brain aneurysm shortly before he was scheduled to testify in Garrison’s case against Clay Shaw. Some suspect foul play.
Jack Ruby (1967) – The man who shot Oswald died in prison from aggressive cancer. Some believe his sudden illness was suspicious.
Lee Bowers (1966) – A railroad worker who claimed to have seen suspicious activity behind the grassy knoll. He died in a one-car accident that some believe was staged.
Thomas Hale Boggs Sr. (1972) – A member of the Warren Commission, Boggs disappeared when his plane vanished in Alaska. Some conspiracy theorists suspect he may have had knowledge contradicting the Commission's findings.
William Pitzer (1966) – A Navy officer who allegedly had film of Kennedy's autopsy that contradicted official reports. He died from a gunshot wound, ruled a suicide, but some suspect foul play.
Buddy Walthers (1969) – A Dallas deputy sheriff who claimed to have seen evidence of a second shooter. He was shot to death in what was reported as an unrelated incident.

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