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Offline John Mytton

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Re: A hole in Bledsoe's story?
« Reply #40 on: March 20, 2025, 12:04:56 AM »
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I agree with you John. Sadly, the imaginations of the biased ones will run rampant regardless of their lack of evidence and logic.

LNer's have the superior ability to see the width, length and depth of the entire picture whereas CT's lack the deductive reasoning to see the entire box and like little monkeys, are trapped in that box throwing faeces at the walls in a desperate attempt to understand.

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Re: A hole in Bledsoe's story?
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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: A hole in Bledsoe's story?
« Reply #41 on: March 20, 2025, 12:18:12 AM »
LNer's have the superior ability to see the width, length and depth of the entire picture whereas CT's lack the deductive reasoning to see the entire box and like little monkeys, are trapped in that box throwing faeces at the walls in a desperate attempt to understand.

JohnM

Exactly the kind of BS one would expect from a LN.

The biggest (and easiest to fool) idiot in the room is the one who declares himself to be "superior"

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Re: A hole in Bledsoe's story?
« Reply #42 on: March 20, 2025, 12:18:35 AM »
It's important to remember that less than 48 hours after the assassination Hoover had determined the outcome of the investigation.
The FBI were to find that Oswald was the sole assassin. No confederates. No accomplice.

"If the president had to have this commission, its function should be to receive the FBI’s report, review it, ask questions aimed at clarifying its findings, then endorse the report and disband."

Less than 48 hours after the assassination Hoover had determined the outcome of the FBI's report, that Oswald was the lone assassin. The Warren Commission was to view this report, ask questions to clarify it's findings, then endorse the report.
That is exactly what the Warren Commission did.
The result of the Commission had been determined before the Commission had even come into being.
And it is in this light that any FBI involvement in the investigation of JFK's assassination must be viewed.

This includes something as seemingly pointless as Bledsoe and the shirt.
Viewed through this lens it becomes obvious that the FBI visited Bledsoe to make sure she 'remembered' Oswald wearing the shirt that they already had fibre evidence for.
But it wasn't the shirt Oswald wore to work that day which demonstrates the FBI fibre evidence was as suspect as Bledsoe's memory and that it was all part of the charade to achieve the outcome of the investigation that Hoover had already determined.

This doesn't mean Oswald didn't do it.
It just means to take the FBI's report (and therefore the findings of the Warren Commission) with a pinch of salt.

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The FBI were to find that Oswald was the sole assassin.

The FBI had experience with thousands of cases and certain patterns emerge, if there was probative evidence to suggest otherwise then perhaps that would sway the FBI, but look at what they had;

1) Oswald did the murder with a $13 dollar mail order rifle, an organised hit would use a cheap ass rifle? BTW Oswald's Carcano was tested and found to very capable.
2) Oswald didn't have anyone waiting to get him the hell out of there.
3) Oswald did his best impersonation of running around like a chicken without a head, in his pursuit of escape.
4) Oswald wasn't even organised enough to take his revolver but had to stop off at his room to collect it.
5) Oswald's final best bet wasn't to go to some preorganized safe house but to hide in a darkened theatre? LOL!

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Re: A hole in Bledsoe's story?
« Reply #42 on: March 20, 2025, 12:18:35 AM »


Online Charles Collins

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Re: A hole in Bledsoe's story?
« Reply #43 on: March 20, 2025, 12:24:37 AM »
It's important to remember that less than 48 hours after the assassination Hoover had determined the outcome of the investigation.
The FBI were to find that Oswald was the sole assassin. No confederates. No accomplice.

"If the president had to have this commission, its function should be to receive the FBI’s report, review it, ask questions aimed at clarifying its findings, then endorse the report and disband."

Less than 48 hours after the assassination Hoover had determined the outcome of the FBI's report, that Oswald was the lone assassin. The Warren Commission was to view this report, ask questions to clarify it's findings, then endorse the report.
That is exactly what the Warren Commission did.
The result of the Commission had been determined before the Commission had even come into being.
And it is in this light that any FBI involvement in the investigation of JFK's assassination must be viewed.

This includes something as seemingly pointless as Bledsoe and the shirt.
Viewed through this lens it becomes obvious that the FBI visited Bledsoe to make sure she 'remembered' Oswald wearing the shirt that they already had fibre evidence for.
But it wasn't the shirt Oswald wore to work that day which demonstrates the FBI fibre evidence was as suspect as Bledsoe's memory and that it was all part of the charade to achieve the outcome of the investigation that Hoover had already determined.

This doesn't mean Oswald didn't do it.
It just means to take the FBI's report (and therefore the findings of the Warren Commission) with a pinch of salt.


Dan, frankly it is obvious that you have fallen for the nonsense that the CT crowd tends to write. If you would (with an open and unbiased mind) balance your reading by including some of what the folks who were actually there and a part of the Warren Commission have written, you should see that your post is full of nothing but conjecture and innuendo that couldn’t be further from the truth. Howard Willens, David Belin, and Arlen Specter have all written excellent books about their experiences and how the Warren Commission went about its business.

Here’s a small snippet from Willens’ book that you might appreciate:

The FBI delivered its report to the department late on December 5—a week after Hoover’s initial target date. I remember “being called to the Deputy’s office and asked to take possession of one of the few copies and review it before it went to the White House.” I prepared “a short two-page release regarding the finding of the report.” The report reflected a prodigious investigative effort conducted by the bureau in less than two weeks. It represented the work of some 150 agents under the direction of Gordon Shanklin, the head of the Dallas field office, who in turn reported to Alexander (“Al”) Rosen, the assistant director in charge of the FBI’s general investigative division.29 The report was seventy-five pages long, supplemented by a thirteen-page index and three volumes of exhibits. Part I described the assassination and identified Oswald as the killer. Part II set forth the evidence “conclusively showing that Oswald did assassinate the President.” Part III discussed what the FBI knew about Oswald prior to the assassination and reported the results of the FBI’s investigation, after the assassination, of Oswald’s background, activities, and associates. The exhibits included the documents relating to Oswald’s contacts with the Soviets and the Communist Party. The FBI found no evidence that Oswald was part of a conspiracy to kill the president. Although the scope of the investigation and the documentation in the FBI report were impressive, I immediately noticed some critical errors that required further review. I concluded that this initial report could not be accepted as a complete or authoritative assessment of the facts relating to the assassination.30


That is exactly what the Warren Commission did.

No they did just the opposite of your claim. But don’t take my word for this. Do your own research. What I just suggested above would be a good start.


Viewed through this lens it becomes obvious that the FBI visited Bledsoe to make sure she 'remembered' Oswald wearing the shirt that they already had fibre evidence for.

You are simply looking through the wrong lens. What is obvious through an unbiased and logical lens is that they were simply trying to find out whether or not Bledsoe remembered seeing that shirt on LHO when she saw him on the bus just after the assassination.

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Re: A hole in Bledsoe's story?
« Reply #44 on: March 20, 2025, 12:29:53 AM »
Exactly the kind of BS one would expect from a LN.

The biggest (and easiest to fool) idiot in the room is the one who declares himself to be "superior"

Keep throwing that faeces, little monkey!

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Re: A hole in Bledsoe's story?
« Reply #44 on: March 20, 2025, 12:29:53 AM »


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Re: A hole in Bledsoe's story?
« Reply #45 on: March 20, 2025, 12:40:09 AM »
The FBI had experience with thousands of cases and certain patterns emerge, if there was probative evidence to suggest otherwise then perhaps that would sway the FBI, but look at what they had;

1) Oswald did the murder with a $13 dollar mail order rifle, an organised hit would use a cheap ass rifle? BTW Oswald's Carcano was tested and found to very capable.
2) Oswald didn't have anyone waiting to get him the hell out of there.
3) Oswald did his best impersonation of running around like a chicken without a head, in his pursuit of escape.
4) Oswald wasn't even organised enough to take his revolver but had to stop off at his room to collect it.
5) Oswald's final best bet wasn't to go to some preorganized safe house but to hide in a darkened theatre? LOL!

JohnM

You are right to ignore the fact that Hoover determined the outcome of the FBI investigation less than 48 hours after the assassination.
The investigation had barely begun and Hoover had already decided what the investigation was going to find.
This is a truth LNers will always have to choke on.
Just as they have to choke on the fact that the Warren Commission was nothing more than a rubber stamp for Hoover's predetermined outcome.
The Warren Commission is the worst kind of sham and it reveals the emptiness of the claim that LNers are those with "the superior ability to see the width, length and depth of the entire picture".


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Re: A hole in Bledsoe's story?
« Reply #46 on: March 20, 2025, 12:40:43 AM »

Viewed through this lens it becomes obvious that the FBI visited Bledsoe to make sure she 'remembered' Oswald wearing the shirt that they already had fibre evidence for.

You are simply looking through the wrong lens. What is obvious through an unbiased and logical lens is that they were simply trying to find out whether or not Bledsoe remembered seeing that shirt on LHO when she saw him on the bus just after the assassination.

Hilarious. Charles basically agrees with Dan about the purpose for the FBI taking the shirt to Bledsoe's house. They wanted to find out what she remembered.

The problem with Charles' version is that it doesn't explain why they brought the actual shirt along. If they only wanted to know what Bledsoe remembered, they simply could have asked her. So, what was the purpose of bringing the shirt to her house?


 

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Re: A hole in Bledsoe's story?
« Reply #47 on: March 20, 2025, 12:42:06 AM »
Keep throwing that faeces, little monkey!

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Re: A hole in Bledsoe's story?
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