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Online Charles Collins

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Re: A hole in Bledsoe's story?
« Reply #160 on: March 21, 2025, 04:47:43 PM »
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This is a very serious discussion in Executive Session.
They are talking about Oswald being an agent.  They already have evidence of it.
Where is the sarcasm? - Is he joking? - Does he mean something else?
At one point, Boggs: "...I don't even like to see this being taken down."

 BS: There is no sarcasm.
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Dulles: Oh, terrible.
Boggs: Its implications of this are fantastic, don't you think so?

A: Terrific.

Rankin: To have anybody admit to it, even if it was the fact, I am sure that there wouldn't at this point
be anything to prove it.

Dulles: Lee, if this were true, why would it be particularly in their interest -- I could see, it would be
in their interest to get rid of this man but why would it be in their interest to say he is clearly the only guilty one?
I mean I don't see that argument that you raise particularly shows an interest.

Boggs: I can immediately --
A: They would like to have us fold up and quit.

Boggs: This closes the case, you see. Don't you see?
Dulles: Yes, I see that.

Rankin: They found the man. There is nothing more to do. The Commission supports their conclusions, and we can go
on home and that is the end of it.

Dulles: But that puts the man right on them. If he was not the killer and they employed him, they are already it, you see.
So your argument is correct if they are sure that this is going to close the case, but if it don't close the case, they are
worse off than ever by doing this.

Boggs: Yes, I would think so. And of course, we are all even grasping in the realm of speculation.
I don't even like to see this being taken down.

Dulles: Yes. I think this record ought to be destroyed. Do you think we need a record of this?

A: I don't, except that we said we would have records of meetings and so we called the reporter in the formal way.
If you think what we have said here should not be upon the record, we can have it done that way. Of course it might. . . .

Dulles: I am just thinking of sending around copies and so forth. The only copies of this record should be kept right here.

Boggs: I would hope that none of these records are circulated to anybody.
A: I would hope so too.


Thank you for keeping the discussion about the WC.


This is a very serious discussion in Executive Session.

I agree. This is an emergency session called for just to discuss this issue. However, Boggs puts this discussion into context and proper context when he states:

Boggs: Yes, I would think so. And of course, we are all even grasping in the realm of speculation.
I don't even like to see this being taken down.

The above Boggs’ statement is critical to understanding exactly what they are discussing. They are trying to consider the consequences of what the situation might be if this proves to be anything more than a false allegation. It is a very serious conversation. But it isn’t indicative of whatever it might be that you are trying to say it is.


They already have evidence of it.

No they do not. They are simply discussing an allegation with absolutely no evidence to support it whatsoever.


Where is the sarcasm? - Is he joking? - Does he mean something else?

They are discussing (hypothetically) possible motives (if this were true) of the FBI for accusing LHO of the assassination if he was a paid informant. And trying to make some sense out of the various hypothetical situations. Sarcasm may not have been the best choice of words to describe his remarks. He was speculating about hypothetical scenarios and saying that this might be a way the FBI could use to essentially close the WC investigation down.


There is no sarcasm.

If I come up with a better word I will let you know.

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Re: A hole in Bledsoe's story?
« Reply #160 on: March 21, 2025, 04:47:43 PM »


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Re: A hole in Bledsoe's story?
« Reply #161 on: March 21, 2025, 05:13:22 PM »

Thank you for keeping the discussion about the WC.


This is a very serious discussion in Executive Session.

I agree. This is an emergency session called for just to discuss this issue. However, Boggs puts this discussion into context and proper context when he states:

Boggs: Yes, I would think so. And of course, we are all even grasping in the realm of speculation.
I don't even like to see this being taken down.

The above Boggs’ statement is critical to understanding exactly what they are discussing. They are trying to consider the consequences of what the situation might be if this proves to be anything more than a false allegation. It is a very serious conversation. But it isn’t indicative of whatever it might be that you are trying to say it is.


They already have evidence of it.

No they do not. They are simply discussing an allegation with absolutely no evidence to support it whatsoever.


Where is the sarcasm? - Is he joking? - Does he mean something else?

They are discussing (hypothetically) possible motives (if this were true) of the FBI for accusing LHO of the assassination if he was a paid informant. And trying to make some sense out of the various hypothetical situations. Sarcasm may not have been the best choice of words to describe his remarks. He was speculating about hypothetical scenarios and saying that this might be a way the FBI could use to essentially close the WC investigation down.


There is no sarcasm.

If I come up with a better word I will let you know.

Rankin: They found the man. There is nothing more to do. The Commission supports their conclusions, and we can go on home and that is the end of it.

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Re: A hole in Bledsoe's story?
« Reply #162 on: March 21, 2025, 06:08:04 PM »
Rankin: They found the man. There is nothing more to do. The Commission supports their conclusions, and we can go on home and that is the end of it.

But they did nothing of the sort. Follow the discussion. Taking something out of context and pretending it means something else is all you are doing.  ::)

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Re: A hole in Bledsoe's story?
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Re: A hole in Bledsoe's story?
« Reply #163 on: March 21, 2025, 06:13:04 PM »
But they did nothing of the sort. Follow the discussion. Taking something out of context and pretending it means something else is all you are doing.  ::)

OMG ! He said the words.  :D

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Re: A hole in Bledsoe's story?
« Reply #164 on: March 21, 2025, 06:16:53 PM »
OMG ! He said the words.  :D

Put them in context with the rest of the discussion.

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Re: A hole in Bledsoe's story?
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Re: A hole in Bledsoe's story?
« Reply #165 on: March 21, 2025, 06:19:30 PM »
Put them in context with the rest of the discussion.

Read the transcript, then tell me what he means.
https://jfk.boards.net/post/2185/thread

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Re: A hole in Bledsoe's story?
« Reply #166 on: March 21, 2025, 07:02:42 PM »
Read the transcript, then tell me what he means.
https://jfk.boards.net/post/2185/thread


I just read the whole page. What I said before still stands. What are all the typographical errors doing in that transcript? Your errors or on the original? And why do we only have Qs and As instead of who is speaking?

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Re: A hole in Bledsoe's story?
« Reply #167 on: March 21, 2025, 07:12:46 PM »

I just read the whole page. What I said before still stands. What are all the typographical errors doing in that transcript? Your errors or on the original? And why do we only have Qs and As instead of who is speaking?

That is how it came. I will make it cleaner.

No. - Rankin and other members make it quite clear in this transcript, they were under the direction of the FBI.
The Warren Commission had a mandate detailed in the Katzenbach Memo dated Nov. 25, 1963.
By Jan. 11, '64, they had an outline from the FBI report detailing the lone assassin Lee Harvey Oswald.
In an Executive Meeting, 11 days later, they put into the record that the FBI had "found the man".
"The Commission supports their conclusions, and we can go on home and that is the end of it."

 Thumb1: That's for sure.

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Re: A hole in Bledsoe's story?
« Reply #167 on: March 21, 2025, 07:12:46 PM »