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Online Jim Hawthorn

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Re: The Warren Commission Sham
« Reply #128 on: April 03, 2025, 06:23:49 PM »
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1. The core issue: What is the CT explanation for the conspirators planting a suspiciously non-deformed bullet, fired from Oswald's rifle, at Parkland on a stretcher of unknown provenance? Did they prepare CE 399 in advance - WHY? Was this the best they could do? Why would this goofy scenario even have OCCURRED to sane conspirators? Why would they even NEED this bullet? Was this part of the game - "Just for the hell of it, let's make this more fun by doing something SO goofy it raises a hundred red flags " - ?. It makes UTTERLY no sense. All the red flags cut exactly in the opposite direction - i.e., in favor of authenticity and against conspiracy. You have to assign conspiratorial motives because you're stuck with this evidence, but the supposed conspiratorial motives MAKE NO SENSE. If you can, provide your rational explanation for what sense a planted CE 399 makes.

2. As ballistics-types have pointed out, CE 399 is in fact seriously deformed. It is anything but pristine. The fragments in Connally mesh well with the weight of the lead lost.

3. It was Connally himself who described a sound no louder than a wedding band hitting the floor. This just happens to match pretty perfectly with the cuff link that a nurse in fact found and gave to Nellie.

4. If a bullet or large fragment fell out of Connally's thigh and went pinging on the floor, one might think Connally's doctors would have noticed or been alerted. Dr. Charles Gregory, however, was mystified that there was no such bullet or fragment: "We were disconcerted by not finding a missile at all. Here was our patient with three discernible wounds, and no missile within him of sufficient magnitude to account for them, and we suggested that someone ought to search his belongings and other areas where he had been to see if it could be identified or found, rather."

5. Ken Rahn in 2001 published an extensive analysis of the fragments actually found:

"The Fragments and the Reasons for Analyzing Them" - https://kenrahn.com/JFK/Scientific_topics/NAA/NAA_and_assassination_II/The_fragments.html

"Why the Fragments Weren't Planted" - https://kenrahn.com/JFK/Scientific_topics/NAA/Frags_not_planted.html

"What Follows from the Fragments" - https://kenrahn.com/JFK/Scientific_topics/NAA/What_follows.html

Sure, the Magic Bullet is problematical, there was understandable chaos at Parkland, and there is conflict and confusion in the testimony. This is why starting point is to ask the questions posed in #1 above. Instead CTers want to make every issue into Evidence of Conspiracy, simply bypassing the somewhat larger issue of Whether and How This Makes Any Sense.

Thanks Lance.
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Re: The Warren Commission Sham
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Online Tom Graves

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Re: The Warren Commission Sham
« Reply #129 on: April 03, 2025, 07:56:37 PM »
Freudian that even You would use the word "Magic". "Magic Bullet" anybody?

For the Single Bullet Theory to work, CE-399 had to zig-zag all over the place, right, Storing?

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Re: The Warren Commission Sham
« Reply #130 on: April 03, 2025, 08:14:06 PM »
Yes. I'd like to know why that incidence is accepted by LNers.

The only large fragment that fell out of JBC's thigh wound was the "fragment" known as CE-399.

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Re: The Warren Commission Sham
« Reply #131 on: April 03, 2025, 08:20:00 PM »
It's getting banal and boring.
Redundant questions going nowhere.
It's getting off topic and it's not worth it.

Tom will waste as much time as you will allow him to with his insipid "questions".

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Re: The Warren Commission Sham
« Reply #132 on: April 03, 2025, 08:22:42 PM »
Tom will waste as much time as you will allow him to with his insipid "questions".

Hey Iacoletti,

Do you still think the three people who were filmed by Mr. Towner as they walked across the pergola "patio" a few minutes after the assassination were three Bermuda-shorts-wearing guys, and that one of them was either wearing a blue headscarf or holding a blue balloon on a very short string?
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« Reply #133 on: April 03, 2025, 08:23:33 PM »
Neutron activation analysis expert witness Vincent P. Guinn told the HSCA that the injures to Connally's wrist were very probably caused by CE-399

In 2004 The National Academy of Sciences came out against the ability of NAA to determine that fragments come from the same physical bullet. And the FBI no longer uses it for that purpose.

National Research Council. 2004. Forensic Analysis: Weighing Bullet Lead Evidence. Washington, DC: The National Academies Press. https://doi.org/10.17226/10924.

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Re: The Warren Commission Sham
« Reply #134 on: April 03, 2025, 08:25:04 PM »
What's to explain? CE399 was slowed by Kennedy's neck and further slowed by Connally's torso and this massively slowed bullet went on to only fracture Connally's wrist and in addition CE399 left behind lead fragments which indicates that CE399 tumbled backwards into Connally's wrist, whereas a full speed bullet as you rightfully point out will smash a wrist and severely deform the nose.

Cool story, bro.  Too bad there is ZERO evidence that CE399 ever even touched Kennedy or Connally.

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« Reply #135 on: April 03, 2025, 08:28:59 PM »
The very fact that its condition and discovery are problematical argues in favor of authenticity.

Wow, talk about trying to have it both ways.  If the circumstances surrounding a piece of evidence are solid then it is authentic.  If the circumstances are contradictory, questionable, or inconclusive, then no Conspiracy would do that, therefore it is authentic.

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