The Warren Commission Sham

[Steve M. Galbraith]

Oops!
I'll add "Ballistics Ignoramus" to your list of failures!

Mr. SPECTER. I now hand you a case containing bullet fragments marked Commission Exhibit 857 and ask if you have ever seen those fragments before.
Dr. OLIVIER. Yes, I have.
Mr. SPECTER. And under what circumstances have you viewed those before, please?
Dr. OLIVIER. There were, the two larger fragments were recovered outside of the skull in the cotton waste we were using to catch the fragments without deforming them. There are some smaller fragments in here that were obtained from the gelatin within the cranial cavity after the experiment. We melted the gelatin out and recovered the smallest fragments from within the cranial cavity.
Mr. SPECTER. Now, I show you two fragments designated as Commission Exhibits 567 and 579 heretofore identified as having been found on the front seat of the President's car on November 22, 1963, and ask you if you have had an opportunity to examine those before.
Dr. OLIVIER. Yes, I have.
Mr. SPECTER. And have you had an opportunity to compare those to the two fragments identified as Commission Exhibit 857?
Dr. OLIVIER. Yes, I have.
Mr. SPECTER. And what did that comparison show?
Dr. OLIVIER. They are quite similar.





JohnM

Mr. SPECTER. What bullets were used [for the tests]?
Dr. OLIVIER. It was the 6.5 millimeter Mannlicher-Carcano Western ammunition lot 6,000.

This is like Groundhog Conspiracy Day. Sixty years of it. The same old stuff that is knocked down day-after-day.

[Dan O'meara]

Mr. SPECTER. What bullets were used [for the tests]?
Dr. OLIVIER. It was the 6.5 millimeter Mannlicher-Carcano Western ammunition lot 6,000.

This is like Groundhog Conspiracy Day. Sixty years of it. The same old stuff that is knocked down day-after-day.

Yeah, you've emerged to catch Royell out.
Way to go.
Where are you when the tricky questions are being asked?

[Tom Graves]

Yeah, you've emerged to catch Royell out.
Way to go.
Where are you when the tricky questions are being asked?

I think the point Royell was trying to make is that in his opinion, it makes no sense that the head shot bullet fragmented whereas CE-399 didn't.

Which can be explained by the fact that, as the autopsy doctors indicated, the head shot bullet struck near JFK's thick External Occipital Protuberance whereas CE-399 just rode along JBC's fifth rib and sideswiped his radial bone.

[Tom Graves]

Cyril Wecht reckoned the injuries to JBC's wrist weren't caused by CE-399.

How many of the other forensic pathologists on the panel of nine agreed with him?

All of the bullets fired in the experiment ended up with massively deformed noses. How did Guinn explain that?

Was the muzzle velocity of any of those test bullets significantly reduced (to compensate for the fact that CE-399 had already passed through JFK's lower neck and JBC's chest), and were any of them already tumbling when they sideswiped the cadaver's radial bone? 

[Lance Payette]

No one else ever seems to be, but I was always impressed with a Carcano bullet penetrating 31" of solid pine and being more pristine than CE 399 when it was retrieved. Do I think CE 399, both its condition and its discovery, is problematical? Sure. Is CE 399 a deal-breaker? The very fact that its condition and discovery are problematical argues in favor of authenticity. What sort of whacked-out conspirators would have crafted the scenario of a suspiciously clean bullet being found in dubious circumstances at Parkland? Again, it's the same old story of the conspirators being Geniuses as the conspiracy theory requires and Dolts as the theory requires.

[Tom Graves]

No one else ever seems to be, but I was always impressed with a Carcano bullet penetrating 31" of solid pine and being more pristine than CE 399 when it was retrieved. Do I think CE 399, both its condition and its discovery, is problematical? Sure. Is CE 399 a deal-breaker? The very fact that its condition and discovery are problematical argues in favor of authenticity. What sort of whacked-out conspirators would have crafted the scenario of a suspiciously clean bullet being found in dubious circumstances at Parkland? Again, it's the same old story of the conspirators being Geniuses as the conspiracy theory requires and Dolts as the theory requires.

When I watched the PBS NOVA special, "Cold Case JFK," I was very impressed by the penetration and physical stability of that kind of bullet when fired from LHO's kind of short-rifle. I was also impressed by the fact that it has a tendency to start tumbling upon exiting something soft -- like a block of ballistics gel or a human neck.

[Dan O'meara]

How many of the other forensic pathologists on the panel of nine agreed with him?

The point was you said one guy said this I said one guy said the opposite. So what?



The bullet on the far right is a bullet that hit a wrist bone.
That's evidence.
That's what CE399 should've looked like.

Was the muzzle velocity of any of those test bullets significantly reduced (to compensate for the fact that CE-399 had already passed through JFK's lower neck and JBC's chest), and were any of them already tumbling when they sideswiped the cadaver's radial bone?

Just to clear up your use of the word "sideswiped".
Is it your understanding that the tumbling bullet passed straight through JBC's radial bone or did the tumbling bullet just glance the bone?
Your use of the word "sideswiped" seems to suggest it was just a glancing blow.



Note - the wrist bone has been shattered into multiple pieces.
Note - there is no sign of a hole through which the tumbling bullet passed.
Note - there are multiple metal fragments in a non-linear spread.

[Tom Graves]

The point was you said one guy said this I said one guy said the opposite. So what?

Do you think those eight other forensic pathologists were controlled by the evil, evil CIA?