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Online Tom Graves

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Re: Those mysterious frontal gunmen
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2025, 02:38:21 AM »
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The problem with claiming that ALL shots were fired from the Sniper's Nest is that TSBD employees were streaming back inside that building following the Kill Shot. The vast majority of these employees were watching the motorcade from the Stemmons Sign back up to the steps in front of the TSBD. ALL of these people had no issue with going straight back into this alleged hornet's nest. There is No getting around that. With respect to Lee Bowers, never forget that Bowers gave WC Testimony of seeing a White Shirted Man standing (S) of the E-W section of picket fencing, "in line" with the Triple Underpass. The NIX FILM clearly shows a White Shirted Man running up The Steps immediately following the Kill Shot. None of the 3 Men standing at the bottom of The Steps was wearing a White Shirt. NONE!

The few people who reentered their place of work were confused about the directionality of the shots by the echoes of the three muzzle blasts and the three supersonic "cracks" that they heard in the echo chamber known as Dealey Plaza.

D'oh
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Re: Those mysterious frontal gunmen
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Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: Those mysterious frontal gunmen
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2025, 03:06:00 AM »
Lance make an excellent point. The usual lame counter is for "Cross Fire". But "Cross Fire" is the tactic of the few against the many. Not for trying to kill one person.

If Kennedy ducks down, he is no longer vulnerable to a rearward shooter but he is also no longer vulnerable to a frontal shooter. If you miss the first shot, you have screwed up and if Kennedy ducks, you have no real shot.

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Re: Those mysterious frontal gunmen
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2025, 03:07:55 AM »
    You will shortly begin to rethink your Frontal Shooter conclusion. The Frontal Shooter murder scene has been altered. And this murder scene alteration was done shortly after the assassination. It is impossible to accurately evaluate a possible frontal shooter(s) when the position of possible shooter(s) with respect to land marks has been erroneous. Over the course of the last year, my research has found that the Gordon Arnold, Black Dog Man, Badge Man, etc murder scene was ALTERED. Much More Later.     

But you do not deal with Lance's main point. Why make things complicated for yourself by using a frontal shooter and then have to fake the evidence. It makes no sense.

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Re: Those mysterious frontal gunmen
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2025, 03:24:12 AM »
  The problem with claiming that ALL shots were fired from the Sniper's Nest is that TSBD employees were streaming back inside that building following the Kill Shot. The vast majority of these employees were watching the motorcade from the Stemmons Sign back up to the steps in front of the TSBD. ALL of these people had no issue with going straight back into this alleged hornet's nest. There is No getting around that. With respect to Lee Bowers, never forget that Bowers gave WC Testimony of seeing a White Shirted Man standing (S) of the E-W section of picket fencing, "in line" with the Triple Underpass. The NIX FILM clearly shows a White Shirted Man running up The Steps immediately following the Kill Shot. None of the 3 Men standing at the bottom of The Steps was wearing a White Shirt. NONE!

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With respect to Lee Bowers, never forget that Bowers gave WC Testimony of seeing a White Shirted Man standing (S) of the E-W section of picket fencing, "in line" with the Triple Underpass. The NIX FILM clearly shows a White Shirted Man running up The Steps immediately following the Kill Shot. None of the 3 Men standing at the bottom of The Steps was wearing a White Shirt. NONE!

No, there is a negro man wearing a brown cardigan who turns and runs back up the steps! Compare the brown cardigan to the white motorbike cops helmets and the white concrete fence.

Nix.


BTW you've never explained the significance of the "man in the brown cardigan" running up the steps, AFTER the shots were already fired?

Nix and Zapruder


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« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2025, 03:55:05 AM »
Lance make an excellent point. The usual lame counter is for "Cross Fire". But "Cross Fire" is the tactic of the few against the many. Not for trying to kill one person.

If Kennedy ducks down, he is no longer vulnerable to a rearward shooter but he is also no longer vulnerable to a frontal shooter. If you miss the first shot, you have screwed up and if Kennedy ducks, you have no real shot.

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If Kennedy ducks down

A professional hit would not wait the 5 seconds between the neck shot @ about Z224 when Kennedy emerges from behind the sign in Zapruder and the headshot at Z313, for the simple reason as you say, Kennedy could have ducked(because the "hitmen" had no way of knowing that Kennedy was essentially paralysed) or even Jackie could have pulled Kennedy down and out of the way. The only person who was forced to wait, was the guy on the 6th floor who had to eject a shell and rechamber another bullet and then take careful aim and even then he nearly missed by hitting the upper part of Kennedy's head.

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Re: Those mysterious frontal gunmen
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2025, 04:32:17 AM »
The few people who reentered their place of work were confused about the directionality of the shots by the echoes of the three muzzle blasts and the three supersonic "cracks" that they heard in the echo chamber known as Dealey Plaza.

D'oh

   So these eyewitnesses that were stretched from the Stemmons Sign back to the TSBD Front Door "were confused", but those that said they heard shots coming from the direction of the TSBD were Not? Your bias prevents you from being objective.

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Re: Those mysterious frontal gunmen
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2025, 04:38:22 AM »
Lance make an excellent point. The usual lame counter is for "Cross Fire". But "Cross Fire" is the tactic of the few against the many. Not for trying to kill one person.

If Kennedy ducks down, he is no longer vulnerable to a rearward shooter but he is also no longer vulnerable to a frontal shooter. If you miss the first shot, you have screwed up and if Kennedy ducks, you have no real shot.

   With respect to the "ducks down" stuff that you mentioned above, you are radically underestimating the elevated position atop the Grassy Knoll vs Elm St.

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Re: Those mysterious frontal gunmen
« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2025, 04:41:05 AM »
But you do not deal with Lance's main point. Why make things complicated for yourself by using a frontal shooter and then have to fake the evidence. It makes no sense.

   You need to open your mind. What makes you believe all shooters would be working together?

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« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2025, 04:41:05 AM »