Those mysterious frontal gunmen

[John Mytton]

  Marie Muchmore's film, and Mary Ann Moorman Krahmer's Polaroid snapshot both show the same man standing on the step beside Emmet Hudson.
The Muchmore film shows the man beginning to turn and run up the stairs, and the Nix film captures him in flight. 

 We've all been through this with you before, and you continue to say the man in the Nix film is wearing a "white shirt".  It certainly is not white by any stretch, and it's the same man captured in the Moorman Krahmer Polaroid, the Willis #5 slide, the Nix and Muchmore films, as well as the James Darnell footage.  Live with it.

Hi Steve, I hope you are well.
I don't think Royell believes any of his nonsense, his sole purpose is his attempt to upset people.
I have proven Royell wrong on so many of his theories like the Nix film shows Elm street running up hill, the follow up Police car having no antennae, just insignificant stuff and when you prove him wrong he never says thank you, but just moves on to his next absurdity. One of his latest claims is he has seen an uncropped photo of the aftermath of the Limo and claims there is dried blood on the headrest proving blah, blah, blah but will he post his photo or in fact any photo, not on your nelly, we just gotta take his word for it! And as for his claim about the white shirt man as seen in Nix comes from YouTube where highly compressed videos are a way of life! Sheesh!

As you say there is a stack of evidence that there was three men on the steps, this photo from Moorman was on the UPI network the next day and at the very least on Sunday was on the front page of newspapers.





JohnM

[Steve Barber]

       Steve, you have done nothing with respect to this case for decades now. It has passed you by. You have No Idea what has recently been done, or what is currently being done. You cling to this OLD Stuff like the lady sitting on the bench, 3 guys standing at the bottom of The Steps on Willis 5, the cardigan man, and all of this has already been 86'd. But, you continue rerunning it because you and the other Old Time JFK Assassination Researchers have nothing else to contribute. Why? Because you are inactive. There's an entirely new generation that have dug into this case and turned many of these Old Time Assassination Conclusions, (like you are proffering), inside out. Researchers like Holland and Posner are aware of this and are desperately trying to change the previously accepted JFK Assassination ground rules. They are doing this in order to try and keep themselves and their LN supporting "evidence" relevant. Your spouting this old stuff only Proves 1 thing. Your day is done.

You've never done a single thing with this case except post garbage theories that few-if any-believe, Royell!  You've done absolutely NOTHING except piss people off with your nonsenicals!  You have no idea what I have done with this case besides what I did with the acoustics. NONE whatsoever!  If anyone's day is done, its yours, Storing.  But then, you've never had a "day" to begin with, so, just live with it.  Keep posting your nonsensicals and get laughed at and ignored.  You do a really good job at that!  So put that in your beverage and drink it!

[Steve Barber]

Hi Steve, I hope you are well.
I don't think Royell believes any of his nonsense, his sole purpose is his attempt to upset people.
I have proven Royell wrong on so many of his theories like the Nix film shows Elm street running up hill, the follow up Police car having no antennae, just insignificant stuff and when you prove him wrong he never says thank you, but just moves on to his next absurdity. One of his latest claims is he has seen an uncropped photo of the aftermath of the Limo and claims there is dried blood on the headrest proving blah, blah, blah but will he post his photo or in fact any photo, not on your nelly, we just gotta take his word for it! And as for his claim about the white shirt man as seen in Nix comes from YouTube where highly compressed videos are a way of life! Sheesh!

As you say there is a stack of evidence that there was three men on the steps, this photo from Moorman was on the UPI network the next day and at the very least on Sunday was on the front page of newspapers.





JohnM

 Hi John! 
 
  I am doing well, thanks, and I hope you are also!
 
 I couldn't agree with you more.  Royell has never done a thing for this case.  He's a laughing stock, and most people ignore the constant tripe that he posts here. 
He's one of the "dime a dozen" conspiracy theorists. 

 We'll always have people like Royell Storing posting opinions in these forums. And most of us know what opinions are like...
 Storing will bring up a topic, and as soon as someone pokes holes in it, he goes wild by claiming that because they easily point out his errors, they're bringing up "old stuff".
 That's the best he can do.  He's a clown.   

 

   

[Royell Storing]

  The Muchmore images of 3 Men standing on the bottom of The Steps does Not disprove the WHITE SHIRT MAN moving Up-the-Steps on the NIX FILM. What Muchmore does is Prove there is a major issue regarding these JFK Assassination Images contradicting each other. Also, do Not forget that Lee Bowers gave WC Testimony corroborating a WHITE SHIRT MAN being in this same area. And you can also include the Willis 5 photo showing Only 2 men standing at the bottom of The Steps. Willis 5 adds a 3rd JFK Assassination Image at odds with the Muchmore images of 3 Men standing at the bottom of The Steps.
  And just so the Old Guard knows, I have 2 JFK Assassination Issues currently in the fire and I just put a Blockbuster 3rd issue to bed last week. Specifically what has the Old Guard JFK Assassination Research Community been doing with their time lately? Gumming shredded wheat?       

[John Mytton]

  The Muchmore images of 3 Men standing on the bottom of The Steps does Not disprove the WHITE SHIRT MAN moving Up-the-Steps on the NIX FILM. What Muchmore does is Prove there is a major issue regarding these JFK Assassination Images contradicting each other. Also, do Not forget that Lee Bowers gave WC Testimony corroborating a WHITE SHIRT MAN being in this same area. And you can also include the Willis 5 photo showing Only 2 men standing at the bottom of The Steps. Willis 5 adds a 3rd JFK Assassination Image at odds with the Muchmore images of 3 Men standing at the bottom of The Steps.

I really don't know why you continue to lie? I really don't know?

There is nothing wrong with the JFKA images and to continually suggest that there is "major issues" and especially since you have never proved any of your allegations seriously harms your credibility, no that's a mistake, you never had any credibility.

Anyway all the images are perfectly consistent.

1) Willis 5 is pretty blurry and there is not enough image information to deny that there is 3 men with 1 man partially obscured by the one in front. And the guy on the right is wearing what appears to be a darker cardigan.



2) Moorman shows three men on the steps. and the guy on the right is wearing a darker cardigan.



3) Muchmore shows three guys on the steps with the guy on the right wearing a darker cardigan.



4) Nix shows three men on the steps with one disappearing into the shadows.



5) This high res Nix frame shows the man who is about to enter the shadow is wearing a darker top which is brown.



JohnM

[Lance Payette]

Maybe it's just me, but I see five men on the steps, two with guns and one wearing a Packers sweatshirt. Are we on the same page here, Royell?

Honestly, what is the issue even supposed to be??? In my review of the evidence, I did find - really! - a shower curtain for $68 that is nothing but the three guys on the steps. The ad explained that Royell's White Shirt Guy was actually one of the gunmen and that this is quite obvious. Is that what you - I mean we - believe, Royell?

[Duncan MacRae]

 

Light Brown Cardigan/Sweater With White Shirt Underneath The Cardigan/Sweater

       
       
         

[Royell Storing]

   With respect to WILLIS 5:  "...not enough image information to Deny that there is 3 Men with 1 man partially obscured by the one in front'. When has it EVER been PROVEN that there are 3 Men standing at the bottom of The Steps on Willis 5? It NEVER has been Proven. The Old Guard JFK Assassination Researchers have simply Agreed among themselves that are 3 Men standing there. That's PROOF of Nothing. That's merely an Agreement on the level of the Secret Handshake used by Den 3, Pack #625, Cub Scouts of America. The MISSING 3rd Man in Willis 5 is Emmitt Hudson. Hudson was wearing Lightly Colored Slacks and a Whitish BRIGHT Hat on 11/22/63. Where is there any trace of Lightly Colored Slacks, (either leg), or a White'ish BRIGHT Hat anywhere in the Willis 5 photo? There is absolutely NO trace of Hudson's Lightly Colored Slacks from the ground upward, or his WHITE Hat from Head Height Downward. Just tell me what You actually SEE on Willis 5. NOT what you Think is Supposed to be there. That 3rd Man is simply NOT THERE on Willis 5.
   With respect to the NIX FILM - We see the BACK of the WHITE SHIRT MAN as he moves Up-the-Steps. His WHITE Shirt is covering his entire BACK. The man wearing a GREEN Cardigan would have his GREEN Cardigan covering his entire BACK. We see absolutely NO GREEN on the BACK of the WHITE SHIRT MAN as he moves Up-the-steps. NONE! ALL we see is WHITE. Total WHITE! And do Not forget that the Original NIX FLIM has been missing for decades.
    We have a Stark Discrepancy between assassination images. These images flat-out contradict each other.  Just tell this Forum what you actually SEE on these assassination images. NOT what you Think should be there.