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The Simplest Conspiracy Theory
« on: April 01, 2025, 10:22:05 AM »
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All credible evidence regarding who was on the 6th floor just before, during and after the assassination points away from Oswald.
For this reason, I don't accept that Oswald took the shots.
This automatically makes me a Conspiracy Theorist.
This required that I make up a conspiracy theory that could account for my conviction that Oswald didn't take the shots.
The evidence that it wasn't Oswald who took the shots is the primary factor in my approach.

I do not accept that there were multiple shooters around Dealey Plaza who were then going to make it look like one shooter, that wouldn't have made it past the planning stage.
I don't accept it was an intelligence agency, they could have killed JFK in private without any loose ends.
The assassination of JFK has always seemed to me like a Hail Mary attempt that almost went wrong. The first shot was non-fatal and he could have got down in the limo making the second shot impossible. An assassination attempt in public from long distance seems to me like someone who couldn't get close to the President. It seems really lo-fi.
I don't accept that the CIA/FBI/KGB/Mafia/Cubans were involved in the shooting.
There was enough evidence pointing to one person firing three shots from the Sniper's Nest to convince me.

It is a feature of the Lone Nutter theory that there is no motive so I started there - who had the best motive for wanting JFK dead?
Although there are quite a few candidates for this, there is one who is head and shoulders above the rest - LBJ.
That LBJ was a borderline psychopath who loathed the Kennedy's and lusted after the power of Presidency might seem enough but there was a more urgent motive. LBJ was off the ticket in '64 and being investigated for crimes that would have potentially put him behind bars for a very long time. He was about to lose everything and there was literally only one solution - to become President. The reason he accepted the role of Vice President was largely based on the possibility of JFK being assassinated. If JFK was NOT assassinated before LBJ was off the ticket he was done for.

So, what possible connection could there be between LBJ and Lee Harvey Oswald?

The obvious connection is David Harold Byrd, founder of the Civil Air Patrol of which Oswald had been a cadet, friend of Georges De Morenschildt who befriended Oswald and helped him to find work, and Byrd was owner of the TSBD building where Oswald worked and from where the shots were taken.
Byrd was also an incredibly close friend of LBJ.
What would Byrd's motive be to get involved in the assassination of JFK? - his ultra far-right tendencies and tens of millions of dollars.
The first defense contract awarded during LBJ's presidency went to Byrd's company, LTV. Johnson also kept in place the oil depletion allowance.

So, here is the imagined scenario - in an oak-paneled room over brandy and cigars, LBJ and Byrd agree that JFK has to go. Byrd agrees to make it happen in return for untold wealth. All LBJ has to do is get JFK to visit Dallas before the next election. As in 1960, the motorcade route will take JFK directly past the TSBD building. All that needs to happen is to have a man take a relatively easy shot from the building as JFK passes by.
It could not be simpler.
The number one concern for both LBJ and Byrd is that there is no chance this can be traced back to them because if it goes wrong they could lose everything (LBJ has nothing to lose as he is going to lose everything anyway).
The only way to guarantee this is compartmentalization. LBJ and Byrd must be separated from the shooter in such a way that their involvement is unknown.
The simplest solution I could come up with that fulfills this criteria is as follows:

LBJ and Byrd decide that JFk has to go.
Byrd gets Jack Cason on board. Cason, President of the TSBD, is another ultra far right winger. He came on the FBI's radar at one point when his wife was reported to have said at a party that JFK should be shot, so the position of the Cason household seems pretty clear. I can also work with Cason's actions during the time JFK passes by as they can be interpreted in a suspicious way  (remember, I'm making all this up).
What does Cason get out of all this?
I'm not sure at the moment. He is more than just a foot soldier so it would have to be more than an ideological principle.
Cason also acts as a buffer between LBJ, Byrd and Bill Shelley.
Shelley is a foot soldier and acts out of an ideological principle (God, Country, Democracy etc.). His job is to organize the shooter and the patsy. He has no idea of the involvement of LBJ and Byrd, they have now been successfully separated from the assassination planning and execution and are fully covered by 'plausible deniability'.
Obviously the patsy is Oswald.
As for the shooter, there are two possible candidates.
Mac Wallace - LBJ's henchman, worked for Byrd's LTV. Oswald's job is to meet and greet at the back door, make sure the coast is clear and that everything is ready. The only issue with this is how Wallace gets out after the shooting as the quick arrival of Baker on the scene causes a lot of problems.
Jack Dougherty - the only other TSBD employee who was in the building, has no alibi and whose testimony/statements about his movements are ridiculously suspicious as is his treatment as a witness. He is also a perfect second patsy if the first one doesn't work out.

LBJ and Byrd
Cason
Shelley
Shooter and Patsy

That is the sum total of the simplest conspiracy theory I can imagine.



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« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2025, 01:04:24 PM »
All credible evidence regarding who was on the 6th floor just before, during and after the assassination points away from Oswald.
For this reason, I don't accept that Oswald took the shots.
This automatically makes me a Conspiracy Theorist.
This required that I make up a conspiracy theory that could account for my conviction that Oswald didn't take the shots.
The evidence that it wasn't Oswald who took the shots is the primary factor in my approach.

I do not accept that there were multiple shooters around Dealey Plaza who were then going to make it look like one shooter, that wouldn't have made it past the planning stage.
I don't accept it was an intelligence agency, they could have killed JFK in private without any loose ends.
The assassination of JFK has always seemed to me like a Hail Mary attempt that almost went wrong. The first shot was non-fatal and he could have got down in the limo making the second shot impossible. An assassination attempt in public from long distance seems to me like someone who couldn't get close to the President. It seems really lo-fi.
I don't accept that the CIA/FBI/KGB/Mafia/Cubans were involved in the shooting.
There was enough evidence pointing to one person firing three shots from the Sniper's Nest to convince me.

It is a feature of the Lone Nutter theory that there is no motive so I started there - who had the best motive for wanting JFK dead?
Although there are quite a few candidates for this, there is one who is head and shoulders above the rest - LBJ.
That LBJ was a borderline psychopath who loathed the Kennedy's and lusted after the power of Presidency might seem enough but there was a more urgent motive. LBJ was off the ticket in '64 and being investigated for crimes that would have potentially put him behind bars for a very long time. He was about to lose everything and there was literally only one solution - to become President. The reason he accepted the role of Vice President was largely based on the possibility of JFK being assassinated. If JFK was NOT assassinated before LBJ was off the ticket he was done for.

So, what possible connection could there be between LBJ and Lee Harvey Oswald?

The obvious connection is David Harold Byrd, founder of the Civil Air Patrol of which Oswald had been a cadet, friend of Georges De Morenschildt who befriended Oswald and helped him to find work, and Byrd was owner of the TSBD building where Oswald worked and from where the shots were taken.
Byrd was also an incredibly close friend of LBJ.
What would Byrd's motive be to get involved in the assassination of JFK? - his ultra far-right tendencies and tens of millions of dollars.
The first defense contract awarded during LBJ's presidency went to Byrd's company, LTV. Johnson also kept in place the oil depletion allowance.

So, here is the imagined scenario - in an oak-paneled room over brandy and cigars, LBJ and Byrd agree that JFK has to go. Byrd agrees to make it happen in return for untold wealth. All LBJ has to do is get JFK to visit Dallas before the next election. As in 1960, the motorcade route will take JFK directly past the TSBD building. All that needs to happen is to have a man take a relatively easy shot from the building as JFK passes by.
It could not be simpler.
The number one concern for both LBJ and Byrd is that there is no chance this can be traced back to them because if it goes wrong they could lose everything (LBJ has nothing to lose as he is going to lose everything anyway).
The only way to guarantee this is compartmentalization. LBJ and Byrd must be separated from the shooter in such a way that their involvement is unknown.
The simplest solution I could come up with that fulfills this criteria is as follows:

LBJ and Byrd decide that JFk has to go.
Byrd gets Jack Cason on board. Cason, President of the TSBD, is another ultra far right winger. He came on the FBI's radar at one point when his wife was reported to have said at a party that JFK should be shot, so the position of the Cason household seems pretty clear. I can also work with Cason's actions during the time JFK passes by as they can be interpreted in a suspicious way  (remember, I'm making all this up).
What does Cason get out of all this?
I'm not sure at the moment. He is more than just a foot soldier so it would have to be more than an ideological principle.
Cason also acts as a buffer between LBJ, Byrd and Bill Shelley.
Shelley is a foot soldier and acts out of an ideological principle (God, Country, Democracy etc.). His job is to organize the shooter and the patsy. He has no idea of the involvement of LBJ and Byrd, they have now been successfully separated from the assassination planning and execution and are fully covered by 'plausible deniability'.
Obviously the patsy is Oswald.
As for the shooter, there are two possible candidates.
Mac Wallace - LBJ's henchman, worked for Byrd's LTV. Oswald's job is to meet and greet at the back door, make sure the coast is clear and that everything is ready. The only issue with this is how Wallace gets out after the shooting as the quick arrival of Baker on the scene causes a lot of problems.
Jack Dougherty - the only other TSBD employee who was in the building, has no alibi and whose testimony/statements about his movements are ridiculously suspicious as is his treatment as a witness. He is also a perfect second patsy if the first one doesn't work out.

LBJ and Byrd
Cason
Shelley
Shooter and Patsy

That is the sum total of the simplest conspiracy theory I can imagine.

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Obviously the patsy is Oswald.

But let's examine the pesky facts that always get in the way. Oswald getting into the TSBD was purely by chance, Oswald was applying for jobs in the weeks preceding his Depository employment any of which Oswald would have accepted if successful, for instance he applied for a job with Padgett printing but didn't get the job because a former employer said he was a trouble maker and had "communist tendencies" all of which had zero to do with his eventual employment at the TSBD. And even his TSBD job was only because Frazier was working there and Frazier's sister had lunch with a mutual friend of Ruth Paine, so Oswald's wife had a friend of a friend of a friend's brother who just got a job at the Depository! Whew!





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Re: The Simplest Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2025, 02:01:03 PM »
At the risk of repeating myself, I hereby repeat myself. Your "simple" theory is no more simple than "invisible aliens did it." Oh, yes, characters at the level of Cason, Shelley and Wallace participate in an assassination of the POTUS, thereby risking rather unpleasant execution, because they are all foaming-at-the-mouth ideological wackos. There is absolutely no evidence that they received any material benefit commensurate with the risks they supposedly took. Your latest effort doesn't scratch the surface of my pithy inquiry. You can keep referring to moi as "desperate," "upset," et al. - BWAHAHA - but the fact is, your "theory" is absurd.

The only item to which you chose to respond was my statement that poor Oswald thought it was just another day at work, which you ridiculed without a substantive response. Just try answering my Oswald-oriented questions in a way that doesn't make you sound silly. Myself, I'm currently leaning toward invisible aliens.

Tom wasn't asking you to do so, but you never flesh out your conspiracy theory sufficiently to expose how complex, unlikely and silly it is. Sure, LBJ and Byrd hatched the plot, Byrd recruited Cason without telling him of LBJ's involvement, Cason recruited Shelley without telling him of LBJ's or Byrd's involvement, Shelley recruited a TSBD employee without telling him of LBJ's, Byrd's or Cason's involvement, and poor Oswald thought it was just another day at work. Simple, uncomplicated, no problem.

We'll start at the bottom: "An employee" of the TSBD does the shooting. This employee, according to what you have suggested, is recruited by Bill Shelley. Is any known employee of the TSBD a plausible recruit? Who? On what basis? How is this employee convinced by Bill Shelley to shoot the President of the United States? What is offered to this employee for these remarkable services? Is there any evidence that this employee subsequently came into great wealth or otherwise benefitted to an extent commensurate with the unbelievable risks he took? Did this employee die a mysterious death almost immediately after the assassination or was he allowed to walk around as a ticking time bomb for years?

Who had control of Oswald while the gunman employee was doing the shooting? It obviously wasn't Shelley. Was there no control of Oswald at all - what sense would that make? How did Oswald manage to walk out of the building? Why did he walk out of the building, go home and get his pistol and all the rest? Why didn't he cooperate with the authorities once he was in custody?

How did Oswald's rifle get into the building? Did Shelley sneak into Ruth Paine's garage? Was it just pure happenstance that Oswald picked the night before the assassination to go to Ruth's for curtain rods, left the light on in the garage, and left Marina with a large amount of cash and his wedding ring?

Shelley, we are told, was recruited by TSBD President Jack Cason. How and why? What would have made Shelley amenable to participating in a plot to assassinate the President of the United States? He spent his entire working life, 40 years, at the TSBD - is there any evidence he subsequently came into great wealth or otherwise benefitted to an extent commensurate with the unbelievable risks he took? He lived until 1996 - no one had any concern he might crack?

If Shelley recruited the assassin and presumably made at least minimal arrangements for the control of Oswald, how do we explain his actions during the motorcade and after the shots were fired? He just stood on the TSBD steps, walked down toward the railroad tracks with Lovelady, etc. - really? He offered nothing incriminating about his chosen patsy, no ironclad alibi for the gunman he had recruited - really? He wasn't even bright enough to clean up those incriminating chicken bones in the sniper's nest (BWAHAHA).

Cason was home eating lunch when the assassination happened. What would have made Byrd think Cason would be amenable to participating in a plot to assassinate the POTUS? What did the wealthy Byrd promise Cason? Is there any evidence Cason came into great wealth or otherwise benefitted from the unbelievable risks he took? Why would Cason have thought of recruiting Shelley and why would he have trusted him? He lived until 1985 - no one had any concern he might crack?

Cason was recruited by the very wealthy David Harold Byrd. Why would Byrd have entrusted Cason with a plot that would get them both executed if discovered? Why would Byrd have trusted Cason to recruit Shelley and Shelley to recruit some TSBD employee?

Byrd, you say, either hatched the plot and sold it to LBJ or vice versa. How would this have worked? LBJ was going to trust his life to Byrd, Cason, Shelley and some TSBD employee - really? You can talk about "compartmentalization" all you want, but if this went wrong at the Shelley or gunman level everyone was going to fry. What story could the gunman have told that wouldn't implicate Shelley - and who could be confident he wouldn't implicate Shelley? What story could Shelley have told that wouldn't implicate Cason - and who could be confident he wouldn't implicate Cason? Likewise Cason with Byrd, and Byrd with LBJ?

Oh, yes, I know - Shelley was "ex-CIA," Cason was active with the American Legion, blah blah blah. It's all "Six Degrees of Separation from Kevin Bacon" sort of nonsense and doesn't begin to explain the five participants' mutual participation in a plot to kill the President of the United States.

And BTW, what was the necessity of all the post-assassination shenanigans you posit? Why did the WC need to be a sham? You appear to me to be arguing out of both sides of your mouth, or perhaps you aren't convinced by your own "simple and uncomplicated" theory?

Your theory, in my humble opinion, is completely irrational. I'm done with you, but Tom might be fascinated by your explanation as to how your theory makes any sense at all.
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« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2025, 03:59:06 PM »
But let's examine the pesky facts that always get in the way. Oswald getting into the TSBD was purely by chance, Oswald was applying for jobs in the weeks preceding his Depository employment any of which Oswald would have accepted if successful, for instance he applied for a job with Padgett printing but didn't get the job because a former employer said he was a trouble maker and had "communist tendencies" all of which had zero to do with his eventual employment at the TSBD. And even his TSBD job was only because Frazier was working there and Frazier's sister had lunch with a mutual friend of Ruth Paine, so Oswald's wife had a friend of a friend of a friend's brother who just got a job at the Depository! Whew!
JohnM

Good point. If Oswald got the job by chance, only about a month before the assassination, would this small group of conspirators have enough time to put things together to frame him? Is it possible that they couldn't believe their luck and quickly set things in motion?

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Re: The Simplest Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2025, 04:42:51 PM »
At the risk of repeating myself, I hereby repeat myself. Your "simple" theory is no more simple than "invisible aliens did it." Oh, yes, characters at the level of Cason, Shelley and Wallace participate in an assassination of the POTUS, thereby risking rather unpleasant execution, because they are all foaming-at-the-mouth ideological wackos. There is absolutely no evidence that they received any material benefit commensurate with the risks they supposedly took. Your latest effort doesn't scratch the surface of my pithy inquiry. You can keep referring to moi as "desperate," "upest," et al. - BWAHAHA - but the fact is, your "theory" is absurd.

The only item to which you chose to respond was my statement that poor Oswald thought it was just another day at work, which you ridiculed without a substantive response. Just try answering my Oswald-oriented questions in a way that doesn't make you sound silly. Myself, I'm currently leaning toward invisible aliens.

At the risk of repeating myself, I hereby repeat myself. Your "simple" theory is no more simple than "invisible aliens did it."

It is Lance.
It's way more simple and realistic than that and to make this suggestion is almost unhinged.
Could you please tone down the rhetoric and try to engage like an adult rather than nonsense like this.
Just relax.
You're not under threat or anything like that.

Oh, yes, characters at the level of Cason, Shelley and Wallace participate in an assassination of the POTUS, thereby risking rather unpleasant execution,

But in your own theory Oswald risked the same "unpleasant execution" (with the drama, already  ::)) but you fully accept he took the shots (even though the eyewitness evidence appears to refute that).
Because you're so invested, you're not thinking things through.
And the fact of the matter is you clearly won't contemplate any kind of conspiracy because you would argue that any conspirator would face an "unpleasant execution" therefore no one would be part of a conspiracy - circular argument, anyone?

There is absolutely no evidence that they received any material benefit commensurate with the risks they supposedly took.

This is another weird point you keep trotting out as if it means something.
You don't seem to accept that anyone would do something for an ideology alone. That the only reason anyone does anything is for money. This is so naive it's actually cute.
But keep on blurting it out as I'm sure you will.
No one ever did anything for God, Country, Democracy, Freedom, Civil Rights or anything like that unless there palms were being crossed with silver  ::)

You can keep referring to moi as "desperate," "upest," et al. - BWAHAHA - but the fact is, your "theory" is absurd.

If the shoe fits...
I think others can judge from your opening sentence how calm and rational you are.

The only item to which you chose to respond was my statement that poor Oswald thought it was just another day at work, which you ridiculed without a substantive response. Just try answering my Oswald-oriented questions in a way that doesn't make you sound silly.

Present your questions again in a calm, rational, adult manner and I will answer them as openly and fully as I can.

Myself, I'm currently leaning toward invisible aliens.

 ;D
That explains a lot.
Are they in the room with you while you're typing?

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« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2025, 04:57:58 PM »
But let's examine the pesky facts that always get in the way. Oswald getting into the TSBD was purely by chance, Oswald was applying for jobs in the weeks preceding his Depository employment any of which Oswald would have accepted if successful, for instance he applied for a job with Padgett printing but didn't get the job because a former employer said he was a trouble maker and had "communist tendencies" all of which had zero to do with his eventual employment at the TSBD. And even his TSBD job was only because Frazier was working there and Frazier's sister had lunch with a mutual friend of Ruth Paine, so Oswald's wife had a friend of a friend of a friend's brother who just got a job at the Depository! Whew!





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Then let's say that Oswald working at the TSBD building was a stroke of good fortune for the conspirators.
Maybe it was viewed as too good an opportunity to miss.
Have I broken some kind of rule by accepting the excellent research of an LNer.
Is it some kind of taboo?

Surely people down at TSBD knew Oswald was the Commie Marine who defected then came back with a Russian wife.
Certainly Byrd's friend De Morenschildt knew this, so we can assume Byrd knew it.
If Oswald was anything he was the perfect Patsy - in Texas in the '60's a Marine Commie was guilty even if he didn't do it.
No one was looking any further than Oswald from the get go.

I feel a bit sad though, as I really wanted to incorporate this pic into my theory:



Bill Shelley with the 'Hands Off Cuba' crew down in New Orleans with Oswald in the foreground.
Hey, but maybe it's just someone who looks more like Bill Shelley than Oswald looks like Oswald  ;)


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« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2025, 05:21:15 PM »
Theories like Dan’s “simple” theory are – or should be – highly instructive for all CTers. The serve as a wonderful lesson in how difficult – impossible? – it is to construct a theory with any real-world plausibility.

This was the very point of my “If I had planned the conspiracy" thread. When you are challenged, or challenge yourself, to put meat on the bones of your conspiracy theory, it inevitably starts to look more like a Rube Goldberg contraption than a Presidential assassination.



Bill Shelley, CIA guy? In WW2, he was an ROTC cadet in high school. He began working for the predecessor of the TSBD in 1945, within a few months of high school graduation. He worked in the TSBD all his working life – 40+ years. He lived until 1996. He died in Irving in modest circumstances. There is zero evidence over the course of his life that he had any radical ideological views or received any material benefit from RISKING HIS LIFE as a principal in the ASSASSINATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. But in Conspiracy World – in Dan’s world – these are the sort of characters of which assassination conspirators are made.

But wait, Lance, surely you know Shelley admitted his connection to the CIA? Uh, well …

The source of this Conspiracy Factoid is, of course, the so-called Glaze letters – written by one Elzie Dean Glaze to the HSCA in 1977 and then part of a magazine article in 1989. Glaze claimed to have interviewed “Shelly” extensively in 1974, even being allowed to record those conversations; the notes and tapes, alas, mysteriously disappeared. The cooperative “Shelly” revealed such bombshells as that he “had been an intelligence officer during World War II [when he was a high school ROTC cadet] and thereafter joined the CIA [it wasn’t even formed until late 1948, at which time Shelley was working for the predecessor of the TSBD]." After the assassination, “the Dallas police placed Shelly under arrest and formally charged him with the murder of the President [ya think?]."

You can read the full saga here in the first post by William Weston: https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/5769-glaze-letters/ The Ed Forum folks greeted it with hoots, and even Bart Kamp acknowledges it must be “taken with a large grain of salt.”

Except, of course, by those for whom it's Conspiracy Gospel. But I digress …

Who, in Dan’s theory, alerted Shelley, Cason or Byrd that they had a rifle-owning, Russian-defecting, Castro-sympathizing, ex-Marine-sharpshooter filling orders in the TSBD? Who alerted them that this perfect patsy had been handed to them on a platter? Does this not immediately take Dan's conspiracy far beyond his “simple” little absurdity? Or was Oswald placed in the TSBD before JFK’s motorcade route was ever a gleam in anyone’s eye? What sense would that make – and again, would it not extend the conspiracy far beyond Dan’s “simple” little absurdity?

If Dan’s little absurdity were true, what possible need would there have been to plant or alter any evidence or engage in any sort of cover-up? Mac Wallace simply did what Oswald is alleged to have done, from the location at which Oswald is alleged to have done it, using either the weapon Oswald is alleged to have used or perhaps a more accurate version of it. (One wonders why LBJ and Byrd would have used a gunman with close connections to LBJ who had previously been convicted of first-degree murder – an odd choice, no? And if this was all as compartmentalized as Dan suggests, who did Wallace think he was assassinating JFK for - Shelley? Cason? Byrd?)

I’m just having a bit of fun playing cross-examining attorney with Dan, doing what cross-examining attorneys do – i.e., expose the holes in a witness’s story. But this exercise really should be instructive for all CTers.

Think about the lowest levels of the people who populate your theory – is it plausible, given the entirety of their lives and circumstances, that they would have risked execution by participating in a Presidential assassination? Do their lives show any evidence of inexplicable material benefit subsequent to the assassination? Is there really any plausible reason to plug them into a conspiracy theory? Or are you, like Dan, just making stuff up?

Then focus on what would actually have had to take place – every last real-world detail – for your theory to have worked. “I don’t know, they somehow targeted Oswald as the patsy.” “I don’t know, they somehow allowed him to walk out of the building.” No, this won’t do. You need to think through every last detail and have at least plausible conjecture for everything from how Oswald got his job at the TSBD to how he became the patsy to how he walked out the door and did everything he subsequently did. That alone is going to take you far beyond Dan's cast of characters.

This is no easy task. The worst of Conspiracy Thinking, such as Dan’s, should be instructive for you as a lesson in how not to go about it. Woulda, coulda, shoulda, mighta is not how a viable conspiracy is constructed.

That's all I have for this witness, your honor. Bailiff, please hand him a tissue to wipe his eyes.
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Re: The Simplest Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2025, 05:37:56 PM »
Surely people down at TSBD knew Oswald was the Commie Marine who defected then came back with a Russian wife.
Certainly Byrd's friend De Morenschildt knew this, so we can assume Byrd knew it.
If Oswald was anything he was the perfect Patsy - in Texas in the '60's a Marine Commie was guilty even if he didn't do it.
No one was looking any further than Oswald from the get go.

If Dan didn't exist, I'd have to invent him.

What you see above is known as Conspiratorial Tap-Dancing. As a CTer's theory is exposed as nonsense, he tap-dances across the stage, offering ad hoc additions to his theory in an effort to save it, all the while hoping you'll be distracted by his feet. Alas, as Conspiratorial Tap Dancers go, Dan is no Fred Astaire.


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