The Simplest Conspiracy Theory

[Tom Graves]

Answers to Tom’s questions:

1. Yes, it would appear that CE399 was fired from that 40” MC rifle found on the 6th floor TSBD. Yes, the fragments that were stated to be found in the limo( but not photographed in place) appear to be linked to the MC rifle.
 
However, the CE 399 bullet could have been a test fired bullet and fragments likewise came from test firing the MC rifle. This possibility is not substantiated by any whistleblower or document so it will remain as a CT speculation.

2: Yes, it would appear Lt. Day lifted a palm print off the barrel of that 40” MC rifle that matched Oswald’s hand. However the unwillingness of Lt.Day to sign an affidavit swearing he told FBI agent Drain about the print, while on the contrary, Drain signed an affidavit stating he was never told, introduces reasonable doubt.

Nevertheless, it could very well be true that a print was lifted from the barrel proving that at some point in time, Oswald had touched the barrel of the 40” MC rifle found on the 6th floor of TSBD at 1:20 pm per Boone and Weitzman reports.

3. Yes, 3 shells were produced that appear to have been fired from the 40”MC rifle found on the 6th floor TSBD. Whether those 3 shells are the same 3 shells that Luke Mooney saw on the floor by the TSBD 6th floor SE window before photographs were taken is uncertain because Mooney did not place any marks on the shells before they were picked up by Will Fritz.

Speculative alternative: Fritz picked up the shells on the floor to have them examined and on finding that they did NOT match the 40” MC rifle, Fritz waited until the MC rifle was test fired, and then he took 3 shells from that test and returned to TSBD and threw them back on the floor.
Except for Tom Aleya, and maybe Roger Craig, there is no other witness or whistleblower to substantiate Fritz swapping shells he picked up from the floor  for different test fired shells from the 40”MC rifle.

 These 3 questions by Tom and my 3 answers , plus my previous lengthy “simple conspiracy” theory of Oswald being the 6th floor shooter using a similar 6.5mm Cavalry Carbine rifle, demonstrates that this theory is far more complex than the WC simple theory of Oswald using the MC 40” rifle and acting without aid of any other persons.

Therefore, ruling out that Oswald was a conspirator shooter with aid by at least 1 other person to aid Oswald using the East elevator to bypass Dorothy Garner unseen, leaves only the other CT alternative of a conspirator shooter at the SE 6th floor window either using the 40” MC rifle or using a different rifle after he had replanted the MC rifle in the boxes.

Appear, Appear, Appear?

LOL!

How many bad guys and bad gals do you figure were wittingly involved, altogether, in the planning, the "patsy-ing," the shooting, and the all-important cover up?

Oodles and gobs?

[Royell Storing]

Appear, Appear, Appear?

LOL!

How many bad guys and bad gals do you figure were wittingly involved, altogether, in the planning, the "patsy-ing," the shooting, and the all-important cover up?

Oodles and gobs?

   Including ALL the Fake Newser's, how many people do you believe were involved in the Cover-up that POTUS Joe Biden was, "Cuckoo-for-Cocoa-Puffs"? These people KNOW their job function. They do Not require a "huddle up" with a QB telling them what to do.   

[Tom Graves]

   Including ALL the Fake Newser's, how many people do you believe were involved in the Cover-up that POTUS Joe Biden was, "Cuckoo-for-Cocoa-Puffs"? These people KNOW their job function. They do Not require a "huddle up" with a QB telling them what to do.

Storing,

It seems to me that you're suffering from a very bad case of Biden Derangement Syndrome.

[Zeon Mason]

No, Tom, for those of us advocating for a USA first policy which we believe is a natural common sense thing, the memory of Biden is more like PTSD.  The Illegal Alien invasion of USA and that “Woke”ideology that the Marxist Left Democrat party tried to enact into law is a traumatic event that is difficult to forget.

As to the question of how many conspirators would be needed to alter evidence and make false reports and ignore witnesses , and conduct a sham investigation , you should consult  with the former Democrat Party Central Committee members like Adam Schiff , Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi.

Now, back to Simple (pre planned) Conspiracy Theory alternatives.

The concept:
    A single conspirator shooter used his own special rifle while preplantng the 40” MC rifle to implicate or least cast suspicion towards Oswald. The conspirator wants  to cause as much confusion and distress to the American public as possible, and the planting of a rifle different than his own he thinks is like adding insult to injury as well as perhaps some revenge on Oswald whom the shooter has disdain for, possibly because he considered Oswald  to be a pro Castro Marxist.

The Plan:
1. A conspirator shooter pre planted the 40” MC rifle that was found on the 6th floor TSBD at 1:20pm by Weitzman and Boone.
2. The conspirator had previously found out about Oswald having that rifle after the Walker shooting. (Oswald had in fact taken a shot at Walker)
3. The conspirator stole the MC rifle from Oswalds boarding house or from the Paines garage probably within just a few days if not hours before Nov 22/63.
4. The conspirator took both his own special type rifle with folding stock and the MC rifle into TSBD probably just after midnight Thursday Nov/22/63, up to the 6th floor, where he placed the MC rifle in between boxes.
5. The shooter then hid his special rifle on the 7th floor ( attic space) and slept there for a few hours until daylight.
6. At about 12:00 pm Friday, Nov 22/63, the shooter went down to the TSBD 6th floor to take a quick look. He neither saw nor heard BRW on the floor at that time.
7. The shooter went back up to the 7th floor to get his folding stock rifle and carry it with him under his coat. He returned to the 6th floor not knowing that BRW had arrived and that BRW was over at the SE window.
8. The shooters original plan was to shoot from the SW 6th floor window affording him a quicker escape to the rear stair case or to an elevator.
9. The shooter was momentarily seen at the SW window by Arnold Rowland at 12:15. During this time, Oswald was seen by Carolyn Arnold seated in the 2nd floor lunchroom.
10. The shooter became aware of BRW at the SE window, while BRW was not aware of the shooter because of a wall of boxes at the SE window. BRW  was also looking out and down at the Dealey plaza.
11. The shooter retreated from the SW window 10 secs after 12:15, folding his rifle and hiding it under his coat.He moved over to the east wall of the 6th floor going behind BRW at the SE window, and found someplace he could hide with LOS thru a narrow gap, so that he would know if BRW would leave the floor.
12. At 12:20 BRW left the SE window and walked past the hidden shooter to take an elevator down to the 5th floor.
13. At 12:21, the shooter decides he will shoot from the SE window as he knows that the JFK limo is soon to arrive in Dealey plaza.
14. The shooter arranges a few boxes and places one on the window ledge either for shade or for a resting his rifle on. The window ledge box is in place just before 12:25.
15: the firing of 3 shots in less than 6 secs begins at Z224 and ends about 1 sec after the Z313 shot. The 3rd shot is the one that missed just above JFKs head and struck the curb near James Tague.

The escape: To be continued…

[Tom Graves]

No, Tom, for those of us advocating for a USA first policy which we believe is a natural common sense thing, the memory of Biden is more like PTSD.  The Illegal Alien invasion of USA and that “Woke”ideology that the Marxist Left Democrat party tried to enact into law is a traumatic event that is difficult to forget.

As to the question of how many conspirators would be needed to alter evidence and make false reports and ignore witnesses , and conduct a sham investigation , you should consult  with the former Democrat Party Central Committee members like Adam Schiff , Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi.

Now, back to Simple (pre planned) Conspiracy Theory alternatives.

The concept:
    A single conspirator shooter used his own special rifle while preplantng the 40” MC rifle to implicate or least cast suspicion towards Oswald. The conspirator wants  to cause as much confusion and distress to the American public as possible, and the planting of a rifle different than his own he thinks is like adding insult to injury as well as perhaps some revenge on Oswald whom the shooter has disdain for, possibly because he considered Oswald  to be a pro Castro Marxist.

The Plan:
1. A conspirator shooter pre planted the 40” MC rifle that was found on the 6th floor TSBD at 1:20pm by Weitzman and Boone.
2. The conspirator had previously found out about Oswald having that rifle after the Walker shooting. (Oswald had in fact taken a shot at Walker)
3. The conspirator stole the MC rifle from Oswalds boarding house or from the Paines garage probably within just a few days if not hours before Nov 22/63.
4. The conspirator took both his own special type rifle with folding stock and the MC rifle into TSBD probably just after midnight Thursday Nov/22/63, up to the 6th floor, where he placed the MC rifle in between boxes.
5. The shooter then hid his special rifle on the 7th floor ( attic space) and slept there for a few hours until daylight.
6. At about 12:00 pm Friday, Nov 22/63, the shooter went down to the TSBD 6th floor to take a quick look. He neither saw nor heard BRW on the floor at that time.
7. The shooter went back up to the 7th floor to get his folding stock rifle and carry it with him under his coat. He returned to the 6th floor not knowing that BRW had arrived and that BRW was over at the SE window.
8. The shooters original plan was to shoot from the SW 6th floor window affording him a quicker escape to the rear stair case or to an elevator.
9. The shooter was momentarily seen at the SW window by Arnold Rowland at 12:15. During this time, Oswald was seen by Carolyn Arnold seated in the 2nd floor lunchroom.
10. The shooter became aware of BRW at the SE window, while BRW was not aware of the shooter because of a wall of boxes at the SE window. BRW  was also looking out and down at the Dealey plaza.
11. The shooter retreated from the SW window 10 secs after 12:15, folding his rifle and hiding it under his coat.He moved over to the east wall of the 6th floor going behind BRW at the SE window, and found someplace he could hide with LOS thru a narrow gap, so that he would know if BRW would leave the floor.
12. At 12:20 BRW left the SE window and walked past the hidden shooter to take an elevator down to the 5th floor.
13. At 12:21, the shooter decides he will shoot from the SE window as he knows that the JFK limo is soon to arrive in Dealey plaza.
14. The shooter arranges a few boxes and places one on the window ledge either for shade or for a resting his rifle on. The window ledge box is in place just before 12:25.
15: the firing of 3 shots in less than 6 secs begins at Z224 and ends about 1 sec after the Z313 shot. The 3rd shot is the one that missed just above JFKs head and struck the curb near James Tague.

The escape: To be continued…

Do you think lots of people were wittingly involved in the JFKA's planning, "patsy-ing," shooting, and all-important cover up, or just a few?

[Jim Hawthorn]

No, Tom, for those of us advocating for a USA first policy which we believe is a natural common sense thing, the memory of Biden is more like PTSD.  The Illegal Alien invasion of USA and that “Woke”ideology that the Marxist Left Democrat party tried to enact into law is a traumatic event that is difficult to forget.

As to the question of how many conspirators would be needed to alter evidence and make false reports and ignore witnesses , and conduct a sham investigation , you should consult  with the former Democrat Party Central Committee members like Adam Schiff , Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi.

Now, back to Simple (pre planned) Conspiracy Theory alternatives.

The concept:
    A single conspirator shooter used his own special rifle while preplantng the 40” MC rifle to implicate or least cast suspicion towards Oswald. The conspirator wants  to cause as much confusion and distress to the American public as possible, and the planting of a rifle different than his own he thinks is like adding insult to injury as well as perhaps some revenge on Oswald whom the shooter has disdain for, possibly because he considered Oswald  to be a pro Castro Marxist.

The Plan:
1. A conspirator shooter pre planted the 40” MC rifle that was found on the 6th floor TSBD at 1:20pm by Weitzman and Boone.
2. The conspirator had previously found out about Oswald having that rifle after the Walker shooting. (Oswald had in fact taken a shot at Walker)
3. The conspirator stole the MC rifle from Oswalds boarding house or from the Paines garage probably within just a few days if not hours before Nov 22/63.
4. The conspirator took both his own special type rifle with folding stock and the MC rifle into TSBD probably just after midnight Thursday Nov/22/63, up to the 6th floor, where he placed the MC rifle in between boxes.
5. The shooter then hid his special rifle on the 7th floor ( attic space) and slept there for a few hours until daylight.
6. At about 12:00 pm Friday, Nov 22/63, the shooter went down to the TSBD 6th floor to take a quick look. He neither saw nor heard BRW on the floor at that time.
7. The shooter went back up to the 7th floor to get his folding stock rifle and carry it with him under his coat. He returned to the 6th floor not knowing that BRW had arrived and that BRW was over at the SE window.
8. The shooters original plan was to shoot from the SW 6th floor window affording him a quicker escape to the rear stair case or to an elevator.
9. The shooter was momentarily seen at the SW window by Arnold Rowland at 12:15. During this time, Oswald was seen by Carolyn Arnold seated in the 2nd floor lunchroom.
10. The shooter became aware of BRW at the SE window, while BRW was not aware of the shooter because of a wall of boxes at the SE window. BRW  was also looking out and down at the Dealey plaza.
11. The shooter retreated from the SW window 10 secs after 12:15, folding his rifle and hiding it under his coat.He moved over to the east wall of the 6th floor going behind BRW at the SE window, and found someplace he could hide with LOS thru a narrow gap, so that he would know if BRW would leave the floor.
12. At 12:20 BRW left the SE window and walked past the hidden shooter to take an elevator down to the 5th floor.
13. At 12:21, the shooter decides he will shoot from the SE window as he knows that the JFK limo is soon to arrive in Dealey plaza.
14. The shooter arranges a few boxes and places one on the window ledge either for shade or for a resting his rifle on. The window ledge box is in place just before 12:25.
15: the firing of 3 shots in less than 6 secs begins at Z224 and ends about 1 sec after the Z313 shot. The 3rd shot is the one that missed just above JFKs head and struck the curb near James Tague.

The escape: To be continued…

The very clever conspirator must have been a retard if he though he do all that in building full of people walking from floor to floor! No intelligent plan would even dream of trying to operate within such an unstable environment. Makes no sense.
Also, if the whole point of this was to frame Oswald, why the hell would Lee be left to freely roam the building where anyone could see him, talk to him?

[Zeon Mason]

@Jim: The TSBD was an easy building  to enter and to move up and down using elevators or stairs as it was an unsecured building.

After work hours it is improbable that all windows and doors of the TSBD were locked.

Even if they were, it would have been easy to break into the building because there was no alarm system tied to all the opening of windows and doors.

I do not recall reading that there was even a night security guard for the building.

So it is entirely plausible a conspirator shooter could get into TSBD on the late night of Thursday Nov 22/63 , and be unseen doing so. And once inside the building , he could have gone up to any floor, except the roof, using the rear staircase. It is doubtful that doors on each staircase were locked, but if they were, a professional conspirator assassin no doubt would be prepared and able to unlock them.

I agree with you Jim, that The planting of the 40” MC rifle would seem to be a “retarded” thing to do by a professional conspirator assassin.

I had to explore this  pre planted possibility first in an attempt to explain how the 40” MC rifle was found on the 6th floor TSBD at 1:20 pm, to see if there is some reason why the conspirator would do that , since it would be difficult to keep Oswald from inadvertently having an alibi at the time of shooting.

So one purpose to plant the MC rifle might  be to cause confusion for investigators in the aftermath, and or was revenge on Oswald possibly for portraying himself as a Marxist  in New Orleans and causing  confrontations with Anti Castro Cuban Americans.

There might be some other reasons I have not thought of yet, so any CTs are welcome to jump in here to help out

[Jim Hawthorn]

@Jim: The TSBD was an easy building  to enter and to move up and down using elevators or stairs as it was an unsecured building.

After work hours it is improbable that all windows and doors of the TSBD were locked.

Even if they were, it would have been easy to break into the building because there was no alarm system tied to all the opening of windows and doors.

I do not recall reading that there was even a night security guard for the building.

So it is entirely plausible a conspirator shooter could get into TSBD on the late night of Thursday Nov 22/63 , and be unseen doing so. And once inside the building , he could have gone up to any floor, except the roof, using the rear staircase. It is doubtful that doors on each staircase were locked, but if they were, a professional conspirator assassin no doubt would be prepared and able to unlock them.

I agree with you Jim, that The planting of the 40” MC rifle would seem to be a “retarded” thing to do by a professional conspirator assassin.

I had to explore this  pre planted possibility first in an attempt to explain how the 40” MC rifle was found on the 6th floor TSBD at 1:20 pm, to see if there is some reason why the conspirator would do that , since it would be difficult to keep Oswald from inadvertently having an alibi at the time of shooting.

So one purpose to plant the MC rifle might  be to cause confusion for investigators in the aftermath, and or was revenge on Oswald possibly for portraying himself as a Marxist  in New Orleans and causing  confrontations with Anti Castro Cuban Americans.

There might be some other reasons I have not thought of yet, so any CTs are welcome to jump in here to help out

I get the thing about planting a rifle the day before the shooting but I can't see a conspirator thinking that they could take shots incognito in such a building full of workers freely circulating on all floors.