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Online Dan O'meara

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Re: The Simplest Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #48 on: April 11, 2025, 10:09:07 AM »
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Whether or not CE-399, with ballistic marks from Oswald's short-rifle on it, was the bullet that was found at Parkland Hospital (at least you're admitting that a bullet was found at Parkland Hospital), who fired it from Oswald's short-rifle, how did it get so strangely deformed, where was it found or "found," and how did it end up being given to FBI agent Elmer Todd?

If it wasn't found at Parkland Hospital by Tomlinson, and if it wasn't found an innocent person somewhere else (the riverbank?) and given to his or her buddy Tomlinson (a natural-born prankster, evidently) for some unknown reason, which conspirator initiated the process of its being given to FBI agent Todd (or was HE one of the bad guys, too?), and why did the bad guys include Tomlinson, et al., in the "bogus chain of possession"?

Which goes back to my original question -- How many bad guys and/or really, really bad gals do you think were involved, altogether, in the planning, the "patsy-ing," the shooting, and the all-important cover up?

It doesn't have to be exact, O'meara -- plus or minus ten or so.

Oodles and gobs?

Poor old Tommy just isn't getting it.
Like all true Nutters he believes his theory is a fact. He simply can't deal with any of the evidence that undermines his shaky belief system, so he pretends it doesn't exist.
REPLY#146 of "The Warren Commission Sham" thread is a litany of questions and issues that brave little Tommy has ducked including this:

Tomlinson, Wright, Johnsen and Rowley refused to identify CE399 as the bullet they handled that day.
O P Wright categorically denied that CE399 was the bullet he handled that day.
None of these men were asked to identify CE399 by the Warren Commission.
Wright and Johnsen were never asked to testify at all.
Rowley testified but was never asked about CE399.
Unbelievably, Tomlinson,the man who discovered the bullet in Parkland, testified AND WASN'T ASKED A SINGLE QUESTION ABOUT THE BULLET ITSELF!!
He wasn't shown the bullet to identify, he wasn't shown a picture of the bullet, he wasn't even asked to describe it!
FACT - CE399 was entered into evidence as the bullet found in Parkland without a single person vouching for it as such. NOBODY IDENTIFIED IT AS THE BULLET FOUND IN PARKLAND!


There is zero evidence that CE399 was the bullet found at Parkland and an overwhelming amount of evidence that it wasn't the bullet.
Like all good Nutters, Tommy isn't interested in evidence against his theory. He's blind to it and will hold onto his belief that CE399 was the bullet found at Parkland come what may.
He certainly has no intention of trying to deal with any of this in a credible way.

What he really doesn't get is that this incredibly suspect ballistic evidence is as much a headache for me as it is for him!
The theory I'm proposing doesn't NEED this corrupt ballistic evidence. I'd much prefer it if these four men all identified CE399 as the bullet that was found at Parkland. I'd prefer it if Tomlinson was asked about it and ID'd the bullet when he was giving his testimony before the Sham.
The conspiracy theory I'm proposing is as simple as possible so all of this is a massive obstacle.
However, the difference between me and little Tommy is that I refuse to hide from this evidence.
I don't have the type of mindset that allows me to ignore such overwhelming evidence.
Even if it hurts my own theory I can't ignore it and find it cowardly to do so.

Like all Nutters, little Tommy likes others to do his thinking for him.
So, I'd like to put forward a theory that the FBI were staggeringly incompetent rather than corrupt.
There are two very large problems regarding the ballistic evidence:

1] CE399 magically appearing in the chain of custody with Elmer Todd
2] The bullet or large bullet fragment that fell off JBC's gurney as he was transferred onto the examining table which then magically transformed into the four small metal flakes known as Q9

JBC remembered the bullet (fragment) was picked up by a nurse. Henry Wade remembered the nurse coming to him with it and telling her to give it to a police officer. Bob Nolan remembers the nurse giving it to him. Nolan then left it on Fritz's desk but at some point it magically turned into Q9, four small metal flakes taken out of JBC's wrist injury.
What if the bullet that fell off JBC's gurney was CE399?
The bullet found by Tomlinson had nothing to do with the assassination, it was a completely different bullet, but at the FBI lab in Washington there was some kind of massive mix up and the bullet that fell from JBC's gurney was accidentally (or intentionally) swapped with the dud found by Tomlinson.
This would offer some kind of resolution for these two insurmountable ballistic issues.

On the other hand, Hoover ordered that Oswald was the lone assassin before the investigation had barely begun and that all evidence was going to show that, no matter what.








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Online Tom Graves

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Re: The Simplest Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #49 on: April 11, 2025, 10:29:37 AM »
Poor old Tommy just isn't getting it.
Like all true Nutters he believes his theory is a fact. He simply can't deal with any of the evidence that undermines his shaky belief system, so he pretends it doesn't exist.
REPLY#146 of "The Warren Commission Sham" thread is a litany of questions and issues that brave little Tommy has ducked including this:

Tomlinson, Wright, Johnsen and Rowley refused to identify CE399 as the bullet they handled that day.
O P Wright categorically denied that CE399 was the bullet he handled that day.
None of these men were asked to identify CE399 by the Warren Commission.
Wright and Johnsen were never asked to testify at all.
Rowley testified but was never asked about CE399.
Unbelievably, Tomlinson,the man who discovered the bullet in Parkland, testified AND WASN'T ASKED A SINGLE QUESTION ABOUT THE BULLET ITSELF!!
He wasn't shown the bullet to identify, he wasn't shown a picture of the bullet, he wasn't even asked to describe it!
FACT - CE399 was entered into evidence as the bullet found in Parkland without a single person vouching for it as such. NOBODY IDENTIFIED IT AS THE BULLET FOUND IN PARKLAND!


There is zero evidence that CE399 was the bullet found at Parkland and an overwhelming amount of evidence that it wasn't the bullet.
Like all good Nutters, Tommy isn't interested in evidence against his theory. He's blind to it and will hold onto his belief that CE399 was the bullet found at Parkland come what may.
He certainly has no intention of trying to deal with any of this in a credible way.

What he really doesn't get is that this incredibly suspect ballistic evidence is as much a headache for me as it is for him!
The theory I'm proposing doesn't NEED this corrupt ballistic evidence. I'd much prefer it if these four men all identified CE399 as the bullet that was found at Parkland. I'd prefer it if Tomlinson was asked about it and ID'd the bullet when he was giving his testimony before the Sham.
The conspiracy theory I'm proposing is as simple as possible so all of this is a massive obstacle.
However, the difference between me and little Tommy is that I refuse to hide from this evidence.
I don't have the type of mindset that allows me to ignore such overwhelming evidence.
Even if it hurts my own theory I can't ignore it and find it cowardly to do so.

Like all Nutters, little Tommy likes others to do his thinking for him.
So, I'd like to put forward a theory that the FBI were staggeringly incompetent rather than corrupt.
There are two very large problems regarding the ballistic evidence:

1] CE399 magically appearing in the chain of custody with Elmer Todd
2] The bullet or large bullet fragment that fell off JBC's gurney as he was transferred onto the examining table which then magically transformed into the four small metal flakes known as Q9

JBC remembered the bullet (fragment) was picked up by a nurse. Henry Wade remembered the nurse coming to him with it and telling her to give it to a police officer. Bob Nolan remembers the nurse giving it to him. Nolan then left it on Fritz's desk but at some point it magically turned into Q9, four small metal flakes taken out of JBC's wrist injury.
What if the bullet that fell off JBC's gurney was CE399?
The bullet found by Tomlinson had nothing to do with the assassination, it was a completely different bullet, but at the FBI lab in Washington there was some kind of massive mix up and the bullet that fell from JBC's gurney was accidentally (or intentionally) swapped with the dud found by Tomlinson.
This would offer some kind of resolution for these two insurmountable ballistic issues.

On the other hand, Hoover ordered that Oswald was the lone assassin before the investigation had barely begun and that all evidence was going to show that, no matter what.

Poor widdle brainwashed-by-KGB-disinformation Danny O'Meara, who can't for the life of him explain how CE-399 was created with such strange deformation, why it was created with such strange deformation, how the evil, evil person who fired it through Oswald's short-rifle came into possession of said short-rifle, and why the evil, evil conspirators included so many innocent people (e.g., Tomlinson, Wright and Johnsen) in the chain of characters who ended up giving CE-399 to FBI agent Elmer Todd.

Or does poor widdle Danny O'meara think Tomlinson, Wright, and Johnsen were part of the evil, evil conspiracy, too?

-- Little (6' 3" 250 lb.) Tommy

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Re: The Simplest Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #50 on: April 11, 2025, 10:59:20 AM »
Poor widdle brainwashed-by-KGB-disinformation Danny O'Meara, who can't for the life of him explain how CE-399 was created with such strange deformation, why it was created with such strange deformation, how the evil, evil person who fired it through Oswald's short-rifle came into possession of said short-rifle, and why the evil, evil conspirators included so many innocent people (e.g., Tomlinson, Wright and Johnsen) in the chain of characters who ended up giving CE-399 to FBI agent Elmer Todd.

Or does poor widdle Danny O'meara think Tomlinson, Wright, and Johnsen were part of the evil, evil conspiracy, too?

-- Little (6' 3" 250 lb.) Tommy

Your not dealing very well with any of the arguments, are you?
You come across as slightly unhinged.
I'm concerned that you need a break.
Your interpretation of what I've posted - that Tomlinson, Wright and Johnsen were involved in a conspiracy - is really odd.
Even for you.
And by the way, when I say "little" Tommy, I'm not describing you physically.


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Re: The Simplest Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #51 on: April 11, 2025, 11:10:59 AM »
Your not dealing very well with any of the arguments, are you?
You come across as slightly unhinged.
I'm concerned that you need a break.
Your interpretation of what I've posted - that Tomlinson, Wright and Johnsen were involved in a conspiracy - is really odd.
Even for you.
And by the way, when I say "little" Tommy, I'm not describing you physically.

Dear Widdle Danny O'meara,

Who created the "story" that Tomlinson had found CE-399 and given it to O. P. Wright?

The evil, evil CIA?

The evil, evil DPD?

The evil, evil Secret Service?

The evil, evil FBI?

The evil, evil [fill in the blank]?

I asked you in my previous post why the evil, evil conspirators included innocent people like Tomlinson, Wright and Johnsen in the chain of characters who ended up giving CE-399 to FBI agent Elmer Todd.

Remember?

Here it is again:

Poor widdle brainwashed-by-KGB-disinformation Danny O'Meara, who can't for the life of him explain how CE-399 was created with such strange deformation, why it was created with such strange deformation, how the evil, evil person who fired it through Oswald's short-rifle came into possession of said short-rifle, and why the evil, evil conspirators included so many innocent people (e.g., Tomlinson, Wright and Johnsen) in the chain of characters who ended up giving CE-399 to FBI agent Elmer Todd.

Or does Poor Widdle Danny O'meara think Tomlinson, Wright, and Johnsen wittingly participated in the evil, evil conspiracy, too?

. . . . . .

Still can't answer that question, can you, Poor Widdle Danny O'meara?

All you can do is gaslight.

That's your specialty.

That and paranoiac "thinking."

Poor Widdle Danny O'meara.



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Re: The Simplest Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #52 on: April 11, 2025, 03:28:58 PM »
I get the thing about planting a rifle the day before the shooting but I can't see a conspirator thinking that they could take shots incognito in such a building full of workers freely circulating on all floors.

Then how can you see Oswald doing it?

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« Reply #53 on: April 11, 2025, 07:59:15 PM »
Then how can you see Oswald doing it?

Iacoletti,

Jim used the word "incognito."

Being "incognito" means wearing a disguise and/or using a false name so as not to be recognized by people who might know you.

Since Oswald had been working in the TSBD for a couple of months, he was recognizable to the other workers and therefore could move around freely without arousing suspicion.

As such, the former sharpshooting Marine and self-described Marxist was perfectly positioned in a seven-story building on the motorcade route. There were even tall stacks of boxes near the window for him to hide behind, and smaller boxes for him to either sit on while waiting for the limo to appear on Houston Street or to stack up at the window to rest his left elbow on while firing his second and third shots.

D'oh

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Re: The Simplest Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #54 on: April 12, 2025, 03:22:03 AM »
Jim used the word "incognito."

He said “take shots incognito”.

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As such, the former sharpshooting Marine and self-described Marxist was perfectly positioned in a seven-story building on the motorcade route. There were even tall stacks of boxes near the window for him to hide behind, and smaller boxes for him to either sit on while waiting for the limo to appear on Houston Street or to stack up at the window to rest his left elbow on while firing his second and third shots.

Cool story, bro.
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Re: The Simplest Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #55 on: April 12, 2025, 04:09:16 AM »
He said “take shots incognito”.

Cool story, bro.

Iacoletti,

You don't think Oswald had been rated a "sharpshooter" in the Marine Corps?

You don't think he described himself as a "Marxist" to Snyder in Moscow and to the radio guy in Dallas?

You don't think he worked in a seven-story building on the motorcade route?

You don't think he'd been working in that building for a couple of months?

You don't think there were tall stacks of boxes near the "Sniper's Nest" window?

You don't think his prints were found on two of four the smaller boxes that were found in the "Sniper's Nest," one of them ideally positioned for him to sit on while waiting for the limo to appear on Houston Street?


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« Reply #55 on: April 12, 2025, 04:09:16 AM »