"There's something new here...3 top CIA officials lied to the JFK investigators"

[Jake Maxwell]

Mr. Jefferson Morley: "People will say, 'Oh well, there's nothing new here [in these newly released documents].' No, there's something new here [that we didn't know until March 18]... Three top CIA officials lied to the JFK investigators."

[Tom Graves]

Mr. Jefferson Morley: "People will say, 'Oh well, there's nothing new here [in these newly released documents].' No, there's something new here [that we didn't know until March 18]... Three top CIA officials lied to the JFK investigators."

Oh yeah?

About what?

[Jake Maxwell]

Oh yeah?

About what?

Here's a good summary from ChatGPT:

​Jefferson Morley, a researcher specializing in the JFK assassination, has identified instances where three top CIA officials—James Jesus Angleton, Richard Helms, and George Joannides—allegedly misled investigators regarding their knowledge of Lee Harvey Oswald prior to President Kennedy's assassination.​

James Jesus Angleton: As the CIA's counterintelligence chief, Angleton oversaw a mail interception program that targeted Oswald. He reportedly misrepresented the extent of this surveillance to the House Select Committee on Assassinations in 1978, denying that Oswald had been a specific target. ​

Richard Helms: Serving as Deputy CIA Director in 1964, Helms testified to the Warren Commission that the agency had minimal information about Oswald obtained from other government agencies before Kennedy's assassination. Contrary to this testimony, records indicate that the CIA had been monitoring Oswald's activities since 1959. ​

George Joannides: Joannides was involved in overseeing anti-Castro Cuban exile groups linked to Oswald. He denied any connection to these groups during the House Select Committee's investigation, despite evidence suggesting his direct involvement. ​

Morley contends that these actions by CIA officials may indicate a broader effort to conceal the agency's pre-assassination interest in Oswald from investigators and the public.

[Tom Graves]

​Jefferson Morley, a researcher specializing in the JFK assassination, has identified instances where three top CIA officials—James Jesus Angleton, [...].​

James Jesus Angleton: As the CIA's counterintelligence chief [...]

It's funny how people who hate the CIA always refer to Angleton as James JESUS Angleton, although he didn't particularly like his middle name (his mother was Mexican) and he never used it.

It's obvious that ChatGPT has been fed a bunch of anti-CIA / anti-Angleton garbage by KGB*-influenced "espionage writers" like Tom Mangold (whose primary source in "Cold Warrior" was probable mole Leonard V. McCoy), David Wise (whose primary source in "Molehunt" was probable mole George Kisevalter), and Jefferson Morley (who's so messed up that he can't even admit that Yuri "The KGB Had Absolutely Nothing to Do with Oswald in the USSR" Nosenko was a false defector-in-place in June 1962, and a rogue physical defector to the U.S. in February 1964 whom the KGB had no choice but to support his bona fides in the U.S. through Kremlin-loyal agents like Aleksei Kulak, Igor Kochnov, and Vitaly Yurchenko), et al. ad nauseam.

Gag me with a KGB* spoon.

*Today's SVR and FSB

[Jake Maxwell]

It's funny how people who hate the CIA always refer to Angleton as James JESUS Angleton, although he didn't particularly like his middle name (his mother was Mexican) and he never used it.

It's obvious that ChatGPT has been fed a bunch of anti-CIA / anti-Angleton garbage by KGB*-influenced "espionage writers" like Tom Mangold (whose primary source in "Cold Warrior" was probable mole Leonard V. McCoy), and by David Wise (whose primary source in "Molehunt" was probable mole George Kisevalter), et al. ad nauseam.

Gag me with a KGB* spoon.

*Today's SVR and FSB

Excuse me... we're talking about the CIA officials lying... not ChatGPT... or the name Jesus...

[Tom Graves]

Excuse me... we're talking about the CIA officials lying... not ChatGPT... or the name Jesus...

Jefferson Morley isn't one who should be accusing other people of lying.

It's known as hypocrisy.

[Jake Maxwell]

If CIA officials lied about their knowledge of Lee Harvey Oswald, it could directly impact our understanding of his role in JFK’s assassination in several critical ways:

Oswald’s CIA Connections: If the CIA had been closely monitoring or even manipulating Oswald, it could suggest he wasn’t a lone wolf but part of a larger intelligence operation—wittingly or unwittingly. This raises questions about whether he was used as a patsy or operative.

Missed Warnings or Intentional Neglect: If the CIA had more information on Oswald’s pro-Castro activities, Soviet defection, and Cuban embassy visits than they admitted, it implies they either failed to act on red flags or deliberately ignored them. This could indicate negligence or a decision to allow events to unfold.

Manipulation or Handling: Evidence that George Joannides, who oversaw anti-Castro Cuban groups linked to Oswald, concealed his role raises questions about whether Oswald was influenced or provoked by these groups, possibly as part of an intelligence operation.

Discrediting the Lone Gunman Theory: The Warren Commission concluded Oswald acted alone, but if the CIA knew more about his associations, it could support the theory that he was part of a conspiracy. For instance, if Angleton’s surveillance showed Oswald was involved in activities that weren’t reported, it could mean the agency had a hand in covering up a more complex plot.

Cover-Up or Foreknowledge?: If Richard Helms and others downplayed CIA awareness of Oswald’s movements, it might suggest they were hiding an operational interest in him. Some speculate Oswald could have been part of a covert operation gone wrong or a setup.

Impact on Motive: Knowing more about Oswald’s links to anti-Castro groups and intelligence agents might alter our understanding of his motives. Was he genuinely pro-Castro, or was he a pawn in a complex intelligence game?

[Lance Payette]

Here's a good summary from ChatGPT:

​Jefferson Morley, a researcher specializing in the JFK assassination, has identified instances where three top CIA officials—James Jesus Angleton, Richard Helms, and George Joannides—allegedly misled investigators regarding their knowledge of Lee Harvey Oswald prior to President Kennedy's assassination.​

James Jesus Angleton: As the CIA's counterintelligence chief, Angleton oversaw a mail interception program that targeted Oswald. He reportedly misrepresented the extent of this surveillance to the House Select Committee on Assassinations in 1978, denying that Oswald had been a specific target. ​

I assume this is talking about HT/LINGUAL, about which I once did a pretty thorough study. It was HIGHLY compartmentalized because it was unauthorized and illegal. It blossomed into a huge DOMESTIC surveillance operation as well and became quite a public scandal thanks to the Church Committee. I don't recall all the details, but they are easily discoverable. Oswald being caught up in it had no Oswald-specific sinister implications. It is, to borrow the popular term, a nothingburger insofar as the JFKA is concerned.

This is, alas, all-too-typical of the hysteria that characters like Morley, Newman, Stone and Di Eugenio try to generate. (1) Oswald being included in HT/LINGUAL + (2) the CIA lying about HT/LINGUAL does not add up to "the CIA having some special interest in Oswald" or "Oswald being part of some CIA mission." It adds up to "business as usual for the CIA" and "Oswald being on the HT/LINGUAL radar because he defected to Russia."