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Online David Von Pein

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Re: Can we be honest about Oswald's "patsy" statement?
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2025, 04:30:25 AM »
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At some point you have to have some actual evidence.

Oh, the irony of that sentence is too thick to measure!

Imagine the gall of a JFKA CTer writing the above comment. Just incredible.

Pot meets Kettle (yet again).

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Re: Can we be honest about Oswald's "patsy" statement?
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2025, 04:30:25 AM »


Online Tom Sorensen

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Re: Can we be honest about Oswald's "patsy" statement?
« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2025, 04:41:35 AM »
If three people had photographed Oswald as he was shooting at JFK from his Sniper's Nest, you would probably claim that their photos, lacking a digital time stamp (or a clock in the background) and a notarized statement in triplicate, were fake.

I would be sceptical if their cameras came out of Ruth Paine's garage.

Online Tom Graves

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Re: Can we be honest about Oswald's "patsy" statement?
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2025, 04:45:31 AM »
I would be sceptical if their cameras came out of Ruth Paine's garage.

Yeah, you're probably right . . . or if they'd belonged to probable long-term KGB "illegal," George DeMohrenschildt.

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Re: Can we be honest about Oswald's "patsy" statement?
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Offline Jon Banks

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Re: Can we be honest about Oswald's "patsy" statement?
« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2025, 06:11:04 PM »
Who brought Oswald's rifle from New Orleans to Dallas? (if it wasn't Ruth Paine)

Online Jim Hawthorn

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Re: Can we be honest about Oswald's "patsy" statement?
« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2025, 06:25:24 PM »

How many employees left with 3 minutes of the assassination?

That doesn't prove that he fired the shots. He could have been fleeing because he realised that things were looking bad for him because of how much he was involved in... something.

How many employees owned the rifle on the 6th floor which was directly linked to the bullet fragments found in the Limo?
Again, this doesn't prove that he fired it that day.

How many employees got on and off a slow moving bus, caught a cab and got out way past where the lived?
How many employees went to their residence and got a revolver?

Again, this could have been his panic, his fear that things were looking bad or weird, in relation to what he'd been involved in.

How many employees killed a cop?
Much debated here.

How many employees snuck into a theatre, resisted arrest and tried to kill more cops?

Again, could relate to his fear of the situation.

How many employees were arrested and told one provable lie after another?

Ditto.
« Last Edit: April 04, 2025, 06:25:56 PM by Jim Hawthorn »

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Re: Can we be honest about Oswald's "patsy" statement?
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Online Royell Storing

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Re: Can we be honest about Oswald's "patsy" statement?
« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2025, 06:32:07 PM »
  There is NO EVIDENCE putting Oswald inside that sniper's nest when the shots were fired. I believe Oswald probably moved the boxes around and set the sniper's nest up. That was the level of his involvement in the JFK Assassination. If he had been the shooter, I believe he would have also brought his hand gun with him.
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Offline Jon Banks

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Re: Can we be honest about Oswald's "patsy" statement?
« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2025, 06:42:01 PM »
  There is NO EVIDENCE putting Oswald inside that sniper's nest when the shots were fired. I believe Oswald probably moved the boxes around and set the sniper's nest up. That was the level of his involvement in the JFK Assassination. If he had been the shooter, I believe he would have also brought his hand gun with him.

I have had that same thought. If LHO knew he would be involved with the assassination of a President in advance, why did he leave his pistol at home?

I also have never gotten an explanation for Oswald's conversation with James Jarman on the morning of 11/22/63. Jarman said LHO asked why crowds were lining up outside the Book Depository. Which implies that he wasn't aware that JFK's motorcade was going to pass the Book Depository prior to that conversation.

The best explanation I've heard is that Oswald was plotting his alibi in advance. That's possible but if that were true, wouldn't he have had the same conversation with other people at work that morning? How could he have known that Jarman would mention it later in his statements to the police?
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Online Jim Hawthorn

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Re: Can we be honest about Oswald's "patsy" statement?
« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2025, 06:45:47 PM »
I have had that same thought. If LHO knew he would be involved with the assassination of a President in advance, why did he leave his pistol at home?

I also have never gotten an explanation for Oswald's conversation with James Jarman on the morning of 11/22/63. Jarman said LHO asked why crowds were lining up outside the Book Depository. Which implies that he wasn't aware that JFK's motorcade was going to pass the Book Depository prior to that conversation.

The best explanation I've heard is that Oswald was plotting his alibi in advance. That's possible but if that were true, wouldn't he have had the same conversation with other people at work that morning? How could he have known that Jarman would mention it later in his statements to the police?

If he wanted an alibi, all he had to do was go to the front step and engage in conversation with multiple people.

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Re: Can we be honest about Oswald's "patsy" statement?
« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2025, 06:45:47 PM »