Can we be honest about Oswald's "patsy" statement?

[Watson Phillips]

I don't suggest that AT ALL. That is what Oswald SAID. He obviously knew he'd been in the USSR. Before he was arrested, I don't think the DPD had the faintest idea he'd ever been in the USSR. Like all of his other lies and absurdities, this was just Oswald being Oswald.

Oswald was not being absurd or off topic when he mentioned Russia being the basis for what most interested the "AGENTS" as he was being held in the Dallas Police station.
There were two FBI agents questioning him and if anyone was behaving in a bizarre manner it was the FBI Agents .
One of them named Agent Hosty.
They questioned him about whether he had been to Russia , about his time in the Marines.
Huh!
Why would the first things the FBI want to know about was to question Oswald the assassin who just killed the president on things they knew all about already ?
The questioning from agent Hosty also shows that Oswald knew he had been under federal surveillance for some time and that the FBI had been harassing Marina at least 2 times.
It's all in the Dallas PD summery of the interrogation:
https://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wr/pdf/WR_A11_ReportsDPD.pdf

What do you think about Oswald actually being on point in mentioning his having been to Russia as a main concern of the Feds who were involved in questioning him?

[Lance Payette]

Oswald was not being absurd or off topic when he mentioned Russia being the basis for what most interested the "AGENTS" as he was being held in the Dallas Police station.
There were two FBI agents questioning him and if anyone was behaving in a bizarre manner it was the FBI Agents .
One of them named Agent Hosty.
They questioned him about whether he had been to Russia , about his time in the Marines.
Huh!
Why would the first things the FBI want to know about was to question Oswald the assassin who just killed the president on things they knew all about already ?
The questioning from agent Hosty also shows that Oswald knew he had been under federal surveillance for some time and that the FBI had been harassing Marina at least 2 times.
It's all in the Dallas PD summery of the interrogation:
https://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wr/pdf/WR_A11_ReportsDPD.pdf

What do you think about Oswald actually being on point in mentioning his having been to Russia as a main concern of the Feds who were involved in questioning him?

The point being made in my original post was that Oswald's "patsy" statement did not even vaguely suggest he was a patsy IN SOME CONSPIRACY TO ASSASSINATE JFK, which is how CTers persistently misuse the statement. He said he was a patsy of the DPD. You will see in the short video that he refers to "these police officers" having "taken me in" because "I lived in the Soviet Union." Contrary to your suggestion, he does not refer at all to federal agents or to being interrogated about his Soviet connections. As CTers persistently do, you are flatly misstating what occurred, and I no longer have the patience for these silly CT fantasy games.

Did the interrogation deal with his time in the Marines and the USSR. OBVIOUSLY IT DID. Once it became known who he was, possible Soviet involvement in the JFKA was a prime concern. But this had nothing to do with his "patsy" statement as to why "these police officers" had "taken [him] in."

[Watson Phillips]

The point being made in my original post was that Oswald's "patsy" statement did not even vaguely suggest he was a patsy IN SOME CONSPIRACY TO ASSASSINATE JFK, which is how CTers persistently misuse the statement. He said he was a patsy of the DPD. You will see in the short video that he refers to "these police officers" having "taken me in" because "I lived in the Soviet Union." Contrary to your suggestion, he does not refer at all to federal agents or to being interrogated about his Soviet connections. As CTers persistently do, you are flatly misstating what occurred, and I no longer have the patience for these silly CT fantasy games.

Did the interrogation deal with his time in the Marines and the USSR. OBVIOUSLY IT DID. Once it became known who he was, possible Soviet involvement in the JFKA was a prime concern. But this had nothing to do with his "patsy" statement as to why "these police officers" had "taken [him] in."

How & why would the Dallas police have knowledge of Oswald's travel to Russia ?

[Tom Graves]

How & why would the Dallas police have knowledge of Oswald's travel to Russia ?

It had been in the newspapers.

D'oh

[John Mytton]

How & why would the Dallas police have knowledge of Oswald's travel to Russia ?

This information of Oswald leaving and returning from Russia was available from any number of newspapers since 1959.


New York Times 1959



JohnM

[Jim Hawthorn]

If he didn't know his rifle was in the TSBD, of course, panic makes no sense.

Not at all. If he'd been part of some plan, being manipulated by the conspirators, he could have been unaware that an assassination would be attempted that day!
When the shots rang out, seemingly (from some people) coming from the TSBD, he could have thought "WTF? This wasn't the plan!" or even that the shooting had nothing whatsoever to do with the plan that he thought he was part of.
Then he left to seek his contact(s) to find out what he hell was going on (perhaps also realising that he might have been set up).

[Lance Payette]

How & why would the Dallas police have knowledge of Oswald's travel to Russia ?

When the DPD arrested Oswald, I don't believe they did have the faintest idea who he was. Even with the newspaper coverage, it's highly unlikely that in the circumstances of his arrest anyone would have recalled "Hey, this is the guy who defected to Russia!" The likely scenario is that Oswald himself made some statement equivalent to his patsy statement ("You've only arrested me because ..."). By the time of Hosty's involvement, they obviously knew who he was. You appear to be the typical CTer who (1) can't deal with the actual facts, and (2) moves the goal post to avoid dealing with them. The actual fact is, he said NOTHING about being a patsy in any conspiracy. This is a Conspiracy Meme that has no basis in reality. He said he was a patsy, he said he was a patsy, he said he was a patsy ... of the arresting DPD officers.

[Lance Payette]

Not at all. If he'd been part of some plan, being manipulated by the conspirators, he could have been unaware that an assassination would be attempted that day!
When the shots rang out, seemingly (from some people) coming from the TSBD, he could have thought "WTF? This wasn't the plan!" or even that the shooting had nothing whatsoever to do with the plan that he thought he was part of.
Then he left to seek his contact(s) to find out what he hell was going on (perhaps also realising that he might have been set up).

You're going all ad hoc on us again. Why would he have immediately connected "the assassination" to "the plan" (to do what - toss water balloons out the window? wave protest signs?)? Why would he have played dumb in the lunchroom encounter and the encounter with Mrs. Reid? Why would he have hopped a bus, changed to a taxi, had Whaley drop him off past the rooming house, yada yada yada? This is your idea of how a patsy in some non-lethal plan "seeks out his contacts"? Why did he resist arrest, refuse to cooperate in the interrogation, give no clue to reporters or his family that his only involvement was in some non-lethal plan? If one thought one were involved in some non-lethal plan and had actually done nothing, would not the rational response in the face of a Presidential assassination be to remain in place and be fully cooperative? Your excuses for his actual conduct are entirely ad hoc and entirely lacking in plausibility.