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Re: I have had a JFKA epiphany!
« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2025, 07:37:57 PM »
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Re: I have had a JFKA epiphany!
« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2025, 07:40:51 PM »
It's a mystery to me why someone would posts thousands of times at a JFK Assassination Forum and only defend Oswald against the allegations while never once giving his or her theory as to what happened that day in Dallas. What is the person trying to accomplish?

This is the "JFK Assassination Forum" not the "Oswald Didn't Do It" Forum.

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Re: I have had a JFKA epiphany!
« Reply #26 on: April 05, 2025, 07:46:00 PM »
It's a mystery to me why someone would posts thousands of times at a JFK Assassination Forum and only defend Oswald against the allegations while never once giving his or her theory as to what happened that day in Dallas. What is the person trying to accomplish?

If I had a theory I would present it.  Why do I have to have one?  Not everybody likes to make up fanciful stories without evidence and insist they are true. Does that somehow make YOUR fanciful story automatically any more correct?

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This is the "JFK Assassination Forum" not the "Oswald Didn't Do It" Forum.

It also isn't "Oswald did do it" forum.  Or fan-fiction forum.

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Re: I have had a JFKA epiphany!
« Reply #27 on: April 05, 2025, 11:57:17 PM »
"Incorrect" by what standard?

Look at Zapruder frames 190 or-so through 224 and then look at their 5:08-long video at 1:37 and judge for yourself.
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Re: I have had a JFKA epiphany!
« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2025, 01:50:46 AM »
If I had a theory as to who conspired to kill JFK, I would share it. Why do I have to have one? (paraphrased)

Because the fact you don't suggests that you think the Oswald-Did-It theory is the best one that you know of.
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Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: I have had a JFKA epiphany!
« Reply #29 on: April 06, 2025, 05:38:58 AM »
"There are none so blind as those who will not see," which encapsulates the mindset of the LNers. For them, the moment an irrefutable fact contradicts the LN hypothesis, it’s game over. This is why they adamantly reject any evidence suggesting that Oswald didn't act alone. To anyone trained in critical thinking and logic, it is clear that Oswald was part of a conspiracy, while LNers resort to pseudo-skepticism and denialism to defend their position.

CTs do not need to connect every detail to present a coherent conspiratorial hypothesis that LNers would find acceptable or even sound. Their primary task is simply to demonstrate that Oswald did not act alone, which would establish a conspiracy. At that point, the debate is over. They are not required to define the motives behind the conspiracy or determine whether Oswald was merely a patsy or if he even fired a shot; the mere implication that he was not a lone assassin suffices. This is why LNers steadfastly refuse to acknowledge any evidence of a conspiracy, despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. They will deny any suggestion of a conspiracy because they are deeply invested in their belief.

For example: Did Oswald even take a shot?

1) You LNers seem to think it’s insignificant that Oswald disassembled the rifle, placed it in a bag, smuggled it into the TSBD, removed it from the bag, reassembled it, fired it at least three times, and then discarded it without leaving a single fingerprint on the rifle.

2) You LNers find it reasonable to believe that after the shooting, Oswald wiped off all his fingerprints, ditched the rifle, raced downstairs to the second floor, and calmly bought a Coke in less than 90 seconds. Really?

3) You LNers believe that sharpshooter Oswald never bothered to sight in his scope, yet included it in the paper bag with the disassembled rifle, knowing he wouldn’t use it.

4) The real issue is that the magic bullet does not have a valid trajectory from the sixth floor, entering JFK's back at the T1 vertebra and exiting at C7. This is simply impossible!

5) Here is my two-laser challenge that disproves the magic bullet theory: http://www.kohlbstudio.com/Images/JFK_2lasers.png

Here are the results of my attempt to match up the wounds: http://www.kohlbstudio.com/Images/MB2lasers2.png

6) This is the only viable trajectory that fits the wounds on JFK's back and throat: http://www.kohlbstudio.com/Images/JFK_AMBT2.png

7) Below is JFK's alleged x-ray showing where the magic bullet supposedly smashed through his T1 vertebra and out his throat, then shattered Connally's rib and wrist bones, causing at least seven wounds before dropping onto the wrong gurney without a trace of blood, bone, or flesh on it—looking as if it was fished out of a swimming pool, only slightly deformed and essentially intact. That bullet was indeed magical!

http://www.kohlbstudio.com/Images/x-ray_mb.gif

8 ) Regarding the backyard photos: Sheep-dipping 101.

a) The Warren Commission only had one negative for CE 133-B and not the crucial CE 133-A, which somehow went missing, like much of the evidence in this case. The Dallas police reportedly found three negatives and at least two prints. The Warren Commission received only two prints and one negative. There were at least six photos that Marina couldn’t recall taking, which turned up in unexpected places. So it seems Marina must have been lying and didn’t take all the photos, especially CE 133-A.

b) Roscoe White and the Dallas Police Department were behind the backyard photos, and Roscoe was very familiar with darkroom shenanigans. The backyard photos were part of Oswald's sheep-dipping, and the DPD aimed to leak a photo showing Oswald with the alleged murder weapons and communist literature to frame him as the patsy. The scope was left on the rifle to match the backyard photos. Only CE 133-A was of sufficient quality to read the font on the communist literature, which is why it had to be shot with a different camera, not by Marina.

c) The DPD’s incriminating connections to the backyard photos included re-enactments and a darkroom cutout created from a negative that appeared out of nowhere and was never admitted into evidence. Clearly, CE 133-A is the smoking anomaly here since its quality does not match the other photos, which could not have been achieved with the Imperial Reflex 620 camera (CE 750). CE 133-A does not have the same lens distortion as the other photos; specifically, the spherical aberration of CE 133-A does not match the others. CE 133-A was obviously the "money shot" and was likely taken with the Minox spy camera found among Oswald's possessions.

d) Marina clearly lied about taking only one photo and misremembered taking more than six backyard photos of Oswald. Someone else must have taken them. Therefore, conspiracy.

e) The DPD staged some backyard photos and created a cutout of CE 133-C, which was found in Roscoe White's widow's house and was never admitted into evidence. What was the cutout intended for?

http://www.kohlbstudio.com/images/BY_cutout.jpg

f) The following GIF demonstrates the glaring differences in distortion between CE 133-A and C. As a photogrammetrist, I can confidently say that the discrepancies in focus and spherical aberration between these two photos are so obvious that they were undoubtedly taken with different cameras or lenses.

http://www.kohlbstudio.com/images/anim5.gif

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There's much more to this case, including the autopsy, but I’ll stop here because I know the LNers' eyes have glazed over and they are in full denial mode. I suspect they will argue that none of this constitutes a well-defined conspiracy, riddled with holes and unconnected dots, etc. However, I don't expect any refutations because it only takes one fact to shatter their LNer worldview, and they are all in for a penny. As I mentioned at the outset, I only need one irrefutable fact to prove Oswald was not a lone assassin to win the debate. I do have a conspiracy theory to support my claims, but I doubt the LNers are interested, so I won't bother.

« Last Edit: April 06, 2025, 06:06:08 AM by Jack Trojan »

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Re: I have had a JFKA epiphany!
« Reply #30 on: April 06, 2025, 05:57:27 AM »
The saying goes, "There are none so blind as those who will not see," and this encapsulates the mindset of the LNers. For them, the moment an irrefutable fact contradicts the LN hypothesis, it’s game over. This is why they adamantly reject any evidence suggesting that Oswald acted alone. To anyone trained in critical thinking and logic, it is clear that Oswald was part of a conspiracy, while LNers resort to pseudo-skepticism and denialism to defend their position.

CTs do not need to connect every detail to present a coherent conspiratorial hypothesis that LNers would find acceptable or even sound. Their primary task is simply to demonstrate that Oswald did not act alone, which would establish a conspiracy. At that point, the debate is over. They are not required to define the motives behind the conspiracy or determine whether Oswald was merely a patsy or if he even fired a shot; the mere implication that he was not a lone assassin suffices. This is why LNers steadfastly refuse to acknowledge any evidence of a conspiracy, despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. They will deny any suggestion of a conspiracy because they are deeply invested in their belief.

For example: Did Oswald even take a shot?

1) You LNers seem to think it’s insignificant that Oswald disassembled the rifle, placed it in a bag, smuggled it into the TSBD, removed it from the bag, reassembled it, fired it at least three times, and then discarded it without leaving a single fingerprint on the rifle.

2) You LNers find it reasonable to believe that after the shooting, Oswald wiped off all his fingerprints, ditched the rifle, raced downstairs to the second floor, and calmly bought a Coke in less than 90 seconds. Really?

3) You LNers believe that sharpshooter Oswald never bothered to sight in his scope, yet included it in the paper bag with the disassembled rifle, knowing he wouldn’t use it.

4) The real issue is that the magic bullet does not have a valid trajectory from the sixth floor, entering JFK's back at the T1 vertebra and exiting at C7. This is simply impossible!

5) Here is my two-laser challenge that disproves the magic bullet theory: http://www.kohlbstudio.com/Images/JFK_2lasers.png

Here are the results of my attempt to match up the wounds: http://www.kohlbstudio.com/Images/MB2lasers2.png

6) This is the only viable trajectory that fits the wounds on JFK's back and throat: http://www.kohlbstudio.com/Images/JFK_AMBT2.png

7) Below is JFK's alleged x-ray showing where the magic bullet supposedly smashed through his T1 vertebra and out his throat, then shattered Connally's rib and wrist bones, causing at least seven wounds before dropping onto the wrong gurney without a trace of blood, bone, or flesh on it—looking as if it was fished out of a swimming pool, only slightly deformed and essentially intact. That bullet was indeed magical!
http://www.kohlbstudio.com/Images/x-ray_mb.gif

8 ) Regarding the backyard photos: Sheep-dipping 101.

a) The Warren Commission only had one negative for CE 133-B and not the crucial CE 133-A, which somehow went missing, like much of the evidence in this case. The Dallas police reportedly found three negatives and at least two prints. The Warren Commission received only two prints and one negative. There were at least six photos that Marina couldn’t recall taking, which turned up in unexpected places. So it seems Marina must have been lying and didn’t take all the photos, especially CE 133-A.

b) Roscoe White and the Dallas Police Department were behind the backyard photos, and Roscoe was very familiar with darkroom tricks. The backyard photos were part of Oswald's sheep-dipping, and the DPD aimed to leak a photo showing Oswald with the alleged murder weapons and communist literature to frame him as the patsy. The scope was left on the rifle to match the backyard photos. Only CE 133-A was of sufficient quality to read the font on the communist literature, which is why it had to be shot with a different camera, not by Marina.

c) The DPD’s incriminating connections to the backyard photos included re-enactments and a darkroom cutout created from a negative that appeared out of nowhere and was never admitted into evidence. Clearly, CE 133-A is the smoking anomaly here since its quality does not match the other photos, which could not have been achieved with the Imperial Reflex 620 camera (CE 750). CE 133-A does not have the same lens distortion as the other photos; specifically, the spherical aberration of CE 133-A does not match the others. CE 133-A was obviously the "money shot" and was likely taken with the Minox spy camera found among Oswald's possessions.

d) Marina clearly lied about taking only one photo and misremembered taking more than six backyard photos of Oswald. Someone else must have taken them. Therefore, conspiracy.

e) The DPD staged some backyard photos and created a cutout of CE 133-C, which was found in Roscoe White's widow's house and was never admitted into evidence. What was the cutout intended for?

http://www.kohlbstudio.com/images/BY_cutout.jpg

f) The following GIF demonstrates the glaring differences in distortion between CE 133-A and C. As a photogrammetrist, I can confidently say that the discrepancies in focus and spherical aberration between these two photos are so obvious that they were undoubtedly taken with different cameras or lenses.

http://www.kohlbstudio.com/images/anim5.gif

===============================

There's much more to this case, but I’ll stop here because I know the LNers' eyes have glazed over and they are in full denial mode. I suspect they will argue that none of this constitutes a well-defined conspiracy, riddled with holes and unconnected dots, etc. However, I don't expect any refutations because it only takes one fact to shatter their LNer worldview, and they are all in for a penny. As I mentioned at the outset, I only need one irrefutable fact to prove Oswald was not a lone assassin to win the debate. I do have a conspiracy theory to support my claims, but I doubt the LNers are interested, so I won't bother.

How many bad guys and bad gals do you think were wittingly involved, altogether, in the planning, the "patsy-ing," the shooting, and the all-important cover up?

Oodles and gobs?

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Re: I have had a JFKA epiphany!
« Reply #31 on: April 06, 2025, 06:46:57 AM »
How many bad guys and bad gals do you think were wittingly involved, altogether, in the planning, the "patsy-ing," the shooting, and the all-important cover up?

Oodles and gobs?

Not sure why you LNers think that numbers disqualifies a coup. But in a nutshell:

CIA: Allen Dulles (architect of the Big Event), James Angleton (recruited Oswald from the False Defector Program), Richard Helms, George Joannides (who all lied to Congress about what they knew about Oswald before the shooting)

FBI: J.E. Hoover and a few of his minions (Hoover was the defacto Mob boss at the time and Angleton was blackmailing him with a salacious photo)

SS: William Robert Greer (limo driver who slowed the limo down at the turkey shoot point) H. Roy Kellerman (seated next to him)

DPD: J. W. Fritz (lead investigator) with a few stooges, Roscoe White (edited the Zapruder film, the backyard photos and maybe the autopsy photos)

Doctors:The two pathologists who conducted the autopsy on JFK: Commander James Humes (who burned all his notes and performed post mortem surgery on JFK to hide bullet wounds from the front) and Commander J. Thornton Boswell, with assistance from ballistics wound expert Pierre Finck.

VP: Lyndon B. Johnson (was complicit, but reneged on selling out America to Dulles and the 4th Reich, thank goodness for LBJ)

MOB: Carlos Marcello and a few others (there were no lack of mobsters who hated the Kennedys)

I'm sure there are a few more but if you think that's too many to be believable then you are naive to a fault. Dulles was a bloody Nazi and the CIA was a cesspool of corruption. Do you have any doubt that Hoover wasn't corrupt enough? The DPD? The Mob? Get real. Nixon confessed that they were all a bunch of animals.

So yes, oodles and gobs.
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