I have had a JFKA epiphany!

[Tom Graves]

Not sure why you LNers think that numbers disqualifies a coup. But in a nutshell:

CIA: Allen Dulles (architect of the Big Event), James Angleton (recruited Oswald from the False Defector Program), Richard Helms, George Joannides (who all lied to Congress about what they knew about Oswald before the shooting)

FBI: J.E. Hoover and a few of his minions (Hoover was the defacto Mob boss at the time and Angleton was blackmailing him with a salacious photo)

SS: William Robert Greer (limo driver who slowed the limo down at the turkey shoot point) H. Roy Kellerman (seated next to him)

DPD: J. W. Fritz (lead investigator) with a few stooges, Roscoe White (edited the Zapruder film, the backyard photos and maybe the autopsy photos)

Doctors:The two pathologists who conducted the autopsy on JFK: Commander James Humes (who burned all his notes and performed post mortem surgery on JFK to hide bullet wounds from the front) and Commander J. Thornton Boswell, with assistance from ballistics wound expert Pierre Finck.

VP: Lyndon B. Johnson (was complicit, but reneged on selling out America to Dulles and the 4th Reich, thank goodness for LBJ)

MOB: Carlos Marcello and a few others (there were no lack of mobsters who hated the Kennedys)

I'm sure there are a few more but if you think that's too many to be believable then you are naive to a fault. Dulles was a bloody Nazi and the CIA was a cesspool of corruption. Do you have any doubt that Hoover wasn't corrupt enough? The DPD? The Mob? Get real. Nixon confessed that they were all a bunch of animals.

So yes, oodles and gobs.

And all of them hated JFK so much that they were willing to take the very real risk of being caught or snitched on, and fry?

Btw, which one created CE-399 (and how and why did he or she deform it so strangely?), and either "plant" it or cause it to be given to FBI agent Elmer Todd?

How did he or she manage to get Oswald's Carcano and fire CE-399 with it as well as the bullet that the "planted" head-shot fragments came from?

[John Mytton]

Not sure why you LNers think that numbers disqualifies a coup. But in a nutshell:

CIA: Allen Dulles (architect of the Big Event), James Angleton (recruited Oswald from the False Defector Program), Richard Helms, George Joannides (who all lied to Congress about what they knew about Oswald before the shooting)

FBI: J.E. Hoover and a few of his minions (Hoover was the defacto Mob boss at the time and Angleton was blackmailing him with a salacious photo)

SS: William Robert Greer (limo driver who slowed the limo down at the turkey shoot point) H. Roy Kellerman (seated next to him)

DPD: J. W. Fritz (lead investigator) with a few stooges, Roscoe White (edited the Zapruder film, the backyard photos and maybe the autopsy photos)

Doctors:The two pathologists who conducted the autopsy on JFK: Commander James Humes (who burned all his notes and performed post mortem surgery on JFK to hide bullet wounds from the front) and Commander J. Thornton Boswell, with assistance from ballistics wound expert Pierre Finck.

VP: Lyndon B. Johnson (was complicit, but reneged on selling out America to Dulles and the 4th Reich, thank goodness for LBJ)

MOB: Carlos Marcello and a few others (there were no lack of mobsters who hated the Kennedys)

I'm sure there are a few more but if you think that's too many to be believable then you are naive to a fault. Dulles was a bloody Nazi and the CIA was a cesspool of corruption. Do you have any doubt that Hoover wasn't corrupt enough? The DPD? The Mob? Get real. Nixon confessed that they were all a bunch of animals.

So yes, oodles and gobs.

In direct contrast with O'Meara's smarter but misguided conspiracy with just a few participants, you've gone the whole hog and thrown everyone including the kitchen sink at your unbelievably massive conspiracy!

For a start it's impossible to believe Hoover collaborating with anyone, much less the mob and why, when and where did they all get together and formulate this nefarious plan and let's not forget that this murder is the most extreme version of treason and each one of them would be subject to the death penalty.

You also have Greer and Kellerman on your list and I can just imagine the job description: "Ok fella's, your mission is to drive into a warzone with a triangulation of sniper's who will be all firing into your Limo, so just slow down and let it happen and oh, BTW don't forget to duck!"

Then the Bethesda doctors miraculously patched a hole in the back of Kennedy's head, "Halleluiah" and performed surgery on a man without a beating heart and made it look like surgery on a man with a beating heart "Halleluiah x2", Wecht your greatest ally rejected Lifton's nonsense of surgery on a dead man, by exposing this silly mistake with basic human physiology of the circulatory system.


And what's in it for the Dallas Police, did any one or ALL of them suddenly have an influx of enormous amounts of money or did they just hate Kennedy so much, they just did for self satisfaction?



JohnM

[Steve M. Galbraith]

In direct contrast with O'Meara's smarter but misguided conspiracy with just a few participants, you've gone the whole hog and thrown everyone including the kitchen sink at your unbelievably massive conspiracy!

For a start it's impossible to believe Hoover collaborating with anyone, much less the mob and why, when and where did they all get together and formulate this nefarious plan and let's not forget that this murder is the most extreme version of treason and each one of them would be subject to the death penalty.

You also have Greer and Kellerman on your list and I can just imagine the job description: "Ok fella's, your mission is to drive into a warzone with a triangulation of sniper's who will be all firing into your Limo, so just slow down and let it happen and oh, BTW don't forget to duck!"

Then the Bethesda doctors miraculously patched a hole in the back of Kennedy's head, "Halleluiah" and performed surgery on a man without a beating heart and made it look like surgery on a man with a beating heart "Halleluiah x2", Wecht your greatest ally rejected Lifton's nonsense of surgery on a dead man, by exposing this silly mistake with basic human physiology of the circulatory system.


And what's in it for the Dallas Police, did any one or ALL of them suddenly have an influx of enormous amounts of money or did they just hate Kennedy so much, they just did for self satisfaction?

JohnM

One group of conspiracists complain that "nutters" exaggerate what they claim happened, that "nutters" make unfair straw man arguments to characterize their conspiracy beliefs. "Nobody is saying that!"

Then another group of conspiracists come along and say everything the "nutters" claim, everything that the first group complains about being straw men.

Does the first group challenge the second? Well, no. They only complain that "Nobody is saying that", that being exactly what the other group says.

[Royell Storing]

Did you know that Knox Labs started their "study" by using a digital game video, and that their positioning of JFK and JBC in the limo in the final product was grossly incorrect?

   Unless we see some sourcing, the above is water cooler prattle. Wally from Composing doing battle with Forensic SCIENCE. What new?

[John Mytton]

One group of conspiracists complain that "nutters" exaggerate what they claim happened, that "nutters" make unfair straw man arguments to characterize their conspiracy beliefs. "Nobody is saying that!"

Then another group of conspiracists come along and say everything the "nutters" claim, everything that the first group complains about being straw men.

Does the first group challenge the second? Well, no. They only complain that "Nobody is saying that", that being exactly what the other group says.

What's funny is that CT's will explore and entertain any possibility no matter how little supporting evidence there is or how off the wall their premise is, except the one with the mountain of evidence, Oswald did it!

JohnM

[John Iacoletti]

One group of conspiracists complain that "nutters" exaggerate what they claim happened, that "nutters" make unfair straw man arguments to characterize their conspiracy beliefs. "Nobody is saying that!"

Then another group of conspiracists come along and say everything the "nutters" claim, everything that the first group complains about being straw men.

Does the first group challenge the second? Well, no. They only complain that "Nobody is saying that", that being exactly what the other group says.

The group of LN-faithful lumps everybody who disputes the official fantasy as "conspiracists" and demands that they all march in lock step, like they do.

Then they make up absurd strawmen that no "group" puts forward and expect everybody who they label "conspiracists" to "explain" it.

[John Iacoletti]

What's funny is that CT's will explore and entertain any possibility no matter how little supporting evidence there is or how off the wall their premise is, except the one with the mountain of evidence, Oswald did it!

If there actually was one with a "mountain of evidence", then maybe they would.

Hint:  referring to it as "Oswald's rifle" is not "evidence".

[Tom Graves]

If there actually was one with a "mountain of evidence", then maybe they would.

Hint:  referring to it as "Oswald's rifle" is not "evidence".

You say you don't think the JFKA was a conspiracy, but you can't say who forged his handwriting on the coupon and the money order he sent in, whose rifle he's holding in The Backyard Photos, who put his prints on the rifle, who put fibers similar to the blanket's fibers on it, who smuggled it into the TSBD, and who put his prints on the bag and on two of the boxes in the Sniper's Nest.