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Online Jon Banks

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Re: I have had a JFKA epiphany!
« Reply #40 on: April 06, 2025, 10:43:52 PM »
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You say you don't think the JFKA was a conspiracy, but you can't say who forged his handwriting on the coupon and the money order he sent in, whose rifle he's holding in The Backyard Photos, who put his prints on the rifle, who put fibers similar to the blanket's fibers on it, who smuggled it into the TSBD, and who put his prints on the bag and on two of the boxes in the Sniper's Nest.

Who brought the rifle from New Orleans to Dallas? (Ruth Paine denies that she transported it to her garage)

Why is the rifle found in TSBD not the same model as the one Oswald allegedly ordered?

Why did Oswald order a rifle and leave a paper trail when he could've bought one with cash from a local gun store?
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« Reply #41 on: April 07, 2025, 12:04:09 AM »
Who brought the rifle from New Orleans to Dallas? (Ruth Paine denies that she transported it to her garage)


Did Russophile Ruthie deny transporting it, or did she say in so many words that she didn't notice it?

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Why was the rifle found in TSBD not the same model as the one Oswald allegedly ordered?

Probably because they'd run out of the length the little self-described Marxist ordered, so they sent him a longer (and therefore probably more accurate) one, instead.

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Why did Oswald order a rifle and leave a paper trail when he could've bought one with cash from a local gun store?

He used a fake name and a coupon and therefore was more anonymous than if he'd walked into a hardware store or some-such place.

Question: Did hardware stores, etc, in Texas sell used short-rifles that fired highly-stable-in-flight and highly-penetrating round-nosed fmj rounds?
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Re: I have had a JFKA epiphany!
« Reply #42 on: April 07, 2025, 12:25:00 AM »


Question: Did hardware stores, etc, in Texas sell used short-rifles that fired highly-stable-in-flight and highly-penetrating round-nosed fmj rounds?

No one knows where the Carcano ammo Oswald allegedly used was purchased from. Another mystery. Hmm...
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Online Tom Graves

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Re: I have had a JFKA epiphany!
« Reply #43 on: April 07, 2025, 12:37:46 AM »
No one knows where the Carcano ammo Oswald allegedly used was purchased from. Another mystery. Hmm...

Why not just deal with the so-called "mysteries" I've answered for you instead of trying to embellish your open-ended tinfoil-hat conspiracy theory by asking a rhetorical question that neither you nor I can definitively answer?
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Re: I have had a JFKA epiphany!
« Reply #44 on: April 07, 2025, 12:41:01 AM »
Why not just deal with the so-called "mysteries" I've answered for you instead of trying to embellish your tinfoil-hat conspiracy theory by asking a rhetorical question that neither you nor I can definitively answer?

Says the guy who believes Trump works for Putin  ::)

It's okay. The Warren Commission couldn't answer the question of where the ammo came from either...

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Re: I have had a JFKA epiphany!
« Reply #45 on: April 07, 2025, 01:11:06 AM »
Who brought the rifle from New Orleans to Dallas? (Ruth Paine denies that she transported it to her garage)

Why is the rifle found in TSBD not the same model as the one Oswald allegedly ordered?

Why did Oswald order a rifle and leave a paper trail when he could've bought one with cash from a local gun store?

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Who brought the rifle from New Orleans to Dallas? (Ruth Paine denies that she transported it to her garage)

Michael Paine handled the blanket wrapped rifle and had no idea what was contained within, he speculated a shovel or camping equipment, so why would pacifist Ruth be any the wiser?

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Why is the rifle found in TSBD not the same model as the one Oswald allegedly ordered?

Oswald ordered C20-T750 and Oswald received C20-T750. It's also interesting to note that Kleins was advertising the 36 inch model far into 1963, which indicates that their advertising for a cheap ass military surplus rifle wasn't exactly held to a high standard. And why would anyone complain if they received the longer better model and besides, both rifles used the same 6.5mm ammo.





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Why did Oswald order a rifle and leave a paper trail when he could've bought one with cash from a local gun store?

Brick and mortar stores are typically more expensive than mail order but if indeed it was a conspiracy wouldn't it be far easier to have Oswald supposedly remembered buying it from a shop instead of injecting an unnecessarily complicated paper trail? 



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Re: I have had a JFKA epiphany!
« Reply #46 on: April 07, 2025, 01:15:36 AM »
Michael Paine handled the blanket wrapped rifle and had no idea what was contained within, he speculated a shovel or camping equipment, so why would pacifist Ruth be any the wiser?

Not convincing. You don't have to be a gun enthusiast to recognize the shape of a rifle. Even if it was disassembled, the wooden part still resembles a rifle stock.

I've never bought the story and yes, I do think the Paines weren't completely honest with the Warren Commission...
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Re: I have had a JFKA epiphany!
« Reply #47 on: April 07, 2025, 01:30:05 AM »
Not convincing. You don't have to be a gun enthusiast to recognize the shape of a rifle. Even if it was disassembled, the wooden part still resembles a rifle stock.

I've never bought the story and yes, I do think the Paines weren't completely honest with the Warren Commission...

Jon, you are the suspicious one aren't you!

Michael and Ruth were both intelligent and articulate, and had many proven interactions with Oswald and could have easily painted Oswald in a very unflattering light, but they both just told the truth.

Mr. LIEBELER - Did he ever indicate to you any specific hostility toward President Kennedy?
Mr. PAINE - I think at this ACLU meeting he mentioned this specifically that he thought Kennedy had done a good job in civil rights. That was it--generally my impression was that he liked--he didn't like anybody, but he disliked Kennedy least as you might go right from Kennedy.
Mr. LIEBELER - To the best of your recollection, was that the only time he mentioned President Kennedy specifically?
Mr. PAINE - Yes. 


Representative BOGGS - Did he ever express any violence toward General Walker?
Mrs. PAINE - No.
Representative BOGGS - Did he ever discuss President Kennedy with you?
Mrs. PAINE - He never mentioned Kennedy at all.


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