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Offline Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: I have had a JFKA epiphany!
« Reply #48 on: April 07, 2025, 01:39:39 AM »
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Jon, you are the suspicious one aren't you!

Michael and Ruth were both intelligent and articulate, and had many proven interactions with Oswald and could have easily painted Oswald in a very unflattering light, but they both just told the truth.

Mr. LIEBELER - Did he ever indicate to you any specific hostility toward President Kennedy?
Mr. PAINE - I think at this ACLU meeting he mentioned this specifically that he thought Kennedy had done a good job in civil rights. That was it--generally my impression was that he liked--he didn't like anybody, but he disliked Kennedy least as you might go right from Kennedy.
Mr. LIEBELER - To the best of your recollection, was that the only time he mentioned President Kennedy specifically?
Mr. PAINE - Yes. 


Representative BOGGS - Did he ever express any violence toward General Walker?
Mrs. PAINE - No.
Representative BOGGS - Did he ever discuss President Kennedy with you?
Mrs. PAINE - He never mentioned Kennedy at all.


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If the Paines were inclined/ordered (whatever motive you want to have) to *get* Oswald they could have said a dozen and one damning things about him. He's dead; they can make them up. As in: Oswald said he hated JFK, that he showed signs of instability, it's a long list of things. As you point out, not only did they *not* say those things they said essentially the opposite of them.

So how does this fit into the Paines were dishonest view? It doesn't.

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Re: I have had a JFKA epiphany!
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Online Jon Banks

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Re: I have had a JFKA epiphany!
« Reply #49 on: April 07, 2025, 01:49:39 AM »
Jon, you are the suspicious one aren't you!

Michael and Ruth were both intelligent and articulate, and had many proven interactions with Oswald and could have easily painted Oswald in a very unflattering light, but they both just told the truth.

I don't believe the Paines were part of the conspiracy plot but I also don't believe they were completely honest about everything they told investigators. Like Wesley Frazier, I think they primarily were concerned with not being viewed as a potential accomplices of Oswald's. If Ruth wittingly transported a rifle from New Orleans to Dallas, how could that be explained in an innocent way?

Again, you don't have to be a gun expert or enthusiast to recognize a rifle stock. I don't buy the camping equipment story.
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: I have had a JFKA epiphany!
« Reply #50 on: April 10, 2025, 07:26:25 PM »
You say you don't think the JFKA was a conspiracy, but you can't say who forged his handwriting on the coupon and the money order he sent in

Who said anybody did?

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whose rifle he's holding in The Backyard Photos,

LOL. My unsubstantiated claim is automatically true unless you prove otherwise, part 10001.


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who put his prints on the rifle,

LOL. What prints on the rifle?

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who put fibers similar to the blanket's fibers on it,

“Similar”. LOL.

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who smuggled it into the TSBD,

“Smuggled”. LOL.

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and who put his prints on the bag and on two of the boxes in the Sniper's Nest.

..and these prove what, exactly?

LOL
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: I have had a JFKA epiphany!
« Reply #51 on: April 10, 2025, 07:30:08 PM »
Probably because they'd run out of the length the little self-described Marxist ordered, so they sent him a longer (and therefore probably more accurate) one, instead.

“Probably”. LOL.

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He used a fake name and a coupon and therefore was more anonymous than if he'd walked into a hardware store or some-such place.

And yet he walked into a post office and picked up a 5-foot cardboard package marked “firearm” because that was more anonymous. LOL.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: I have had a JFKA epiphany!
« Reply #52 on: April 10, 2025, 07:31:29 PM »
Why not just deal with the so-called "mysteries" I've answered for you instead of trying to embellish your open-ended tinfoil-hat conspiracy theory by asking a rhetorical question that neither you nor I can definitively answer?

You mean the way you embellished your tinfoil hat nutter theory by injecting the word “probably”?

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Online Tom Graves

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Re: I have had a JFKA epiphany!
« Reply #53 on: April 11, 2025, 01:58:35 AM »
You mean the way you embellished your tinfoil hat nutter theory by injecting the word “probably”?

Iacoletti,

How many bad guys and really, really bad gals do you figure were wittingly involved, altogether, in the planning, the "patsy-ing," the shooting, and the all-important cover up?

Just a few, or oodles and gobs?

Btw, do you still think the three people walking across the pergola "patio" a few minutes after the assassination in the Mr. Towner clip were three Bermuda-shorts-wearing dudes, and that one of them was holding a light-blue balloon near his head?

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Re: I have had a JFKA epiphany!
« Reply #54 on: April 11, 2025, 03:25:09 PM »
Iacoletti,

How many bad guys and really, really bad gals do you figure were wittingly involved, altogether, in the planning, the "patsy-ing," the shooting, and the all-important cover up?

Just a few, or oodles and gobs?

Btw, do you still think the three people walking across the pergola "patio" a few minutes after the assassination in the Mr. Towner clip were three Bermuda-shorts-wearing dudes, and that one of them was holding a light-blue balloon near his head?

Graves, give it a damn rest.

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Re: I have had a JFKA epiphany!
« Reply #55 on: April 11, 2025, 08:06:45 PM »
Graves, give it a damn rest.

Iacoletti,

Just answer the question -- Do you still believe the three people who can be seen walking across the pergola "patio" a few minutes after the assassination in the Mr. Towner clip were NOT self-described American Indian Stella Mae Jacobs, strawberry-blond Gloria Holt, and blue-headscarf-wearing Sharron Simmons, but three Bermuda-shorts-wearing dudes?

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