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Offline John Mytton

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Lee Harvey Oswald: Rare Footage Body Language Analysis
« on: April 16, 2025, 03:23:19 AM »
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This video came up in my feed this morning, most probably because I was looking into Voice stress analysis (VSA), which I personally believe to be garbage science.
But this video gets more into specific body language and the usage of language which I find to be based on valid scientific principles. In my experience, body language is a useful way to gauge a persons interest or lack there of!

Anyway, give this video about Oswald's word usage and his body language a watch because it is very eye opening. The four men on the panel are very knowledgeable and have done decades of work interrogating, teaching and writing many books on this subject.
I did find a couple of facts about Oswald's history that I didn't know or were possibly wrong, so may be that can spark a little debate?   

Enjoy!


BTW, I don't believe that any of these men are biased one way or another regarding the JFKA, but they just approach this subject using science and along with their combined decades of real World analysis and experiences!

JohnM

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Lee Harvey Oswald: Rare Footage Body Language Analysis
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Online Charles Collins

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald: Rare Footage Body Language Analysis
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2025, 02:31:27 PM »
This video came up in my feed this morning, most probably because I was looking into Voice stress analysis (VSA), which I personally believe to be garbage science.
But this video gets more into specific body language and the usage of language which I find to be based on valid scientific principles. In my experience, body language is a useful way to gauge a persons interest or lack there of!

Anyway, give this video about Oswald's word usage and his body language a watch because it is very eye opening. The four men on the panel are very knowledgeable and have done decades of work interrogating, teaching and writing many books on this subject.
I did find a couple of facts about Oswald's history that I didn't know or were possibly wrong, so may be that can spark a little debate?   

Enjoy!


BTW, I don't believe that any of these men are biased one way or another regarding the JFKA, but they just approach this subject using science and along with their combined decades of real World analysis and experiences!

JohnM

Thanks John for posting this. It is an interesting video and pretty much speaks for itself. I would like to see what they might say about Jack Ruby (if there is some suitable video of Ruby available for them to analyze).

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald: Rare Footage Body Language Analysis
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2025, 02:58:04 PM »
I was intrigued enough by a term (malignant narcissism)one of them used to look it up.


Early uses of the term

The social psychologist Erich Fromm first coined the term "malignant narcissism" in 1964. He characterized the condition as a solipsistic form of narcissism, in which the individual takes pride in their own inherent traits rather than their achievements, and thus does not require a connection to other people or to reality.[11] Edith Weigert (1967) saw malignant narcissism as a "regressive escape from frustration by distortion and denial of reality", while Herbert Rosenfeld (1971) described it as "a disturbing form of narcissistic personality where grandiosity is built around aggression and the destructive aspects of the self become idealized."[12] Psychoanalyst George H. Pollock wrote in 1978: "The malignant narcissist is presented as pathologically grandiose, lacking in conscience and behavioral regulation with characteristic demonstrations of joyful cruelty and sadism".[13] In 1983, M. Scott Peck used malignant narcissism as a way to explain evil.[14]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malignant_narcissism


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Offline Lance Payette

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald: Rare Footage Body Language Analysis
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2025, 11:39:50 PM »
Greg Hartley says at the beginning that the video is two days after the JFKA and Oswald is being transferred from the City Jail to the County Jail. I believe it's the "midnight press conference" in the basement assembly room late on November 22 or early on November 23rd - isn't that correct?

I'll have to admit, I find Oswald's performance remarkable in many ways and quite convincing. I don't deny he was the Lone Assassin, but I do find this to be a remarkably composed and controlled performance. Put me with Fritz, who probably knew more than any of these guys, in being mystified at how Oswald held up like he did under these circumstances. It had to be some inner grandiosity where he felt he was above it all and fulfilling his destiny at last. Or maybe he was an innocent patsy!  :D

The pseudo-experts just don't impress me at all. Some of what they say is obvious and on point, but I believe their entire shtick is pretty much a pseudoscience. I would hate to have one of these characters follow me around for a morning, analyzing every facial expression and body movement as though it had deep meaning. On the other hand, I'd love to see a different panel analyze these guys' movements and expressions in this video!

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald: Rare Footage Body Language Analysis
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2025, 07:14:38 PM »
"Body language" isn't any more scientific than voice stress analysis.

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald: Rare Footage Body Language Analysis
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2025, 01:44:04 AM »
"Body language" isn't any more scientific than voice stress analysis.

Iacoletti,

I bet your apparent heroes, John Abt and Perry Mason, could poke holes in both of them, don't you?

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald: Rare Footage Body Language Analysis
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2025, 01:44:04 AM »