Why Would Tippit Leave Himself a Sitting Duck For An Armed Cold Blooded Killer ?

[Lance Payette]

Who do you believe every cop in Dallas looking for at that moment ?

J." D. Tippit was one of the few officers in the Dallas Police Force not to be called to Dealey Plaza to help investigate the assassination. Instead, at 12.45 p.m. he was sent to the Oak Cliff section of Dallas."

Do Tippit's actions suggest he thought he was looking for a cold-blooded killer? He was sent to Oak Cliff not to "cover that sector in the search for the cold-blooded killer" but to make sure Oak Cliff had sufficient police coverage for other matters. At least that's my understanding. Bill Brown can surely respond more intelligently than I on this, but I see no reason to think "this might be the killer of JFK" would have been in the forefront of Tippit's mind. Even though it happened to be true, would it have seemed likely that the assassin of JFK would be walking calmly down a residential sidewalk in Oak Cliff?

[Watson Phillips]

Do Tippit's actions suggest he thought he was looking for a cold-blooded killer? He was sent to Oak Cliff not to "cover that sector in the search for the cold-blooded killer" but to make sure Oak Cliff had sufficient police coverage for other matters.

      Officer Tippet's orders included a directive to disregard anyone matching the general description of the president's assassin currently on the loose in the city ?
Really ?
     What orders would have had rendered Tippit unconscious enough to be beckoning a total stranger, matching the general description of the assassin , to the passenger side window as he sat non-defensively and at risk?

[Tom Graves]

      Officer Tippet's orders included a directive to disregard anyone matching the general description of the president's assassin currently on the loose in the city ?
Really ?
     What orders would have had rendered Tippit unconscious enough to be beckoning a total stranger, matching the general description of the assassin , to the passenger side window as he sat non-defensively and at risk?

Gasp . . . do you think the evil, evil bad guys and/or the really, really bad girls sent Tippit to kill their "patsy" in Oak Cliff?

(BTW, you misspelled Tippit in your first sentence.)

[John Mytton]

      Officer Tippet's orders included a directive to disregard anyone matching the general description of the president's assassin currently on the loose in the city ?
Really ?
     What orders would have had rendered Tippit unconscious enough to be beckoning a total stranger, matching the general description of the assassin , to the passenger side window as he sat non-defensively and at risk?

Why do CT's always speak in riddles and never state outright where their latest theory goes?

Are you suggesting that Tippit stopped Oswald because he knew him, but then why did Tippit have his gun unholstered and exactly when did Tippit unholster his gun?

Mr. BALL. The pistol was out of the holster?
Mr. CALLAWAY. Yes, sir; out of the holster, and it was unsnapped. It was on his right side. He was laying with the gun under him.

BTW, you being extremely experienced with your half century old memory of when you were not even a teenager and spent a day with some cops, what should have Tippit done?

JohnM

[Watson Phillips]

Gasp . . . do you think the evil, evil bad guys and/or the really, really bad girls sent Tippet to kill their "patsy" in Oak Cliff?

 Tippet wanted him bad for something .

"It is intriguing, to say the least, that Oswald's departure from the rooming house occurred only moments after the strange appearance and horn-blowing of the patrol car from the Dallas Police Department. Exhaustive investigations have virtually established that the only police car officially in the vicinity was that of Officer J. D. Tippit. Less than fifteen minutes after this incident. Officer Tippit was savagely murdered and left dead in the street about a mile from Oswald's rooming house."

  His pregnant girlfriend would not be of much use in her job stripping  in Jack Ruby's club very much longer and would need $ support single, unemployed , with Tippit's baby
Maybe he was going to ask the patsy for a loan ?
Or maybe Jack Ruby told him of a different way out of the jam he was in ?

[Lance Payette]

Gasp . . . do you think the evil, evil bad guys and/or the really, really bad girls sent Tippit to kill their "patsy" in Oak Cliff?

(BTW, you misspelled Tippit in your first sentence.)

Had that been his mission, I assume he would've pulled over 25 yards behind Oswald, got out, and blown him away. Oh, I get it - to make it "look good," he had been instructed to wait until Oswald pulled his gun. This quickly becomes like my CE 399 thread - about 50 questions arise as to what possible sense this would make. In fact, let's play that game. I hereby stipulate that Tippit had been instructed to whack Oswald. Take us through, my fellow CTers, how this all would have worked and what possible sense it would have made. Please start from the moment Oswald exits the TSBD.

Alternatively, if you think Tippit and Oswald were acquainted and were making some sort of connection, explain to us what that could possibly have been about and why it went so awry.

I'd rather not, but I can post 50 specific questions to get you started. It frankly didn't go so well, my fellow CTers, on the CE 399 thread.

I frankly lean toward Tippit simply not making the connection that some guy walking along a residential sidewalk in Oak Cliff might be the assassin - or, even if he did, that what appears in retrospect as too leisurely of an approach wasn't unreasonable since he did unholster his gun.

[Watson Phillips]

Why do CT's always speak in riddles and never state outright where their latest theory goes?

Are you suggesting that Tippit stopped Oswald because he knew him

Yes the body language of calling Oswald over to the passenger side window for a casual talk suggests they knew each other.

For what reason are you suggesting he called him over for a casual talk ?

[Watson Phillips]

BTW, you being extremely experienced with your half century old memory of when you were not even a teenager and spent a day with some cops, what should have Tippit done?

JohnM

Safely Handling Suspicious Person Stops
June 26, 2008

"One Officer Stops

Distance Equals Time

The Reactionary Gap is a concept based on the rule that distance equals time. The gap or distance you stay away from a suspect provides time for you to respond. At touching distance a suspect can assault you before you can react and respond. Based on this response time deficit it is recommended that you maintain at least six feet from the suspect. As you close the gap to an offender to frisk or handcuff you must do so anticipating resistance and with your hands up ready to respond.


The distance from a suspect leaning into the passenger side window to the officer sitting like a duck behind the wheel being considerably less than the law enforcement recommended standard of " at least six feet distance " ,
 

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