Why Would Tippit Leave Himself a Sitting Duck For An Armed Cold Blooded Killer ?

[Watson Phillips]

Sorry to rain on your parade but the "Police Car" that Earlene allegedly saw had two uniformed Policemen contained within! Oops!

And of course the Dallas police force had that day's patrol record of a two man team working Oswald's neighborhood?
You are a little slow on the uptake .
But you are making progress & getting warmer .
Appreciate your help .
Good Lookin out !

[John Mytton]

I'm tellin' ya, it was a taxi and its passenger! When you put together who Aunt Earlene physically was, her shifting tale, and the unlikelihood that any police car was actually in front of Beckley, Lance's Taxi LN Factoid is as solid as factoids get!

Well, Earlene does say it was a black car and not an "accident squad car" whatever that means? Also worth noting is that the black car was headed towards a 5 way intersection which presumably had traffic, so a little "tit-tit" to help the traffic keep moving makes sense?

Mr. BALL. And you say that there were two uniformed policemen in the car?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Yes, and it was in a black car. It wasn't an accident squad car at all.

JohnM

[Watson Phillips]

I'm tellin' ya, it was a taxi and its passenger! When you put together who Aunt Earlene physically was, her shifting tale, and the unlikelihood that any police car was actually in front of Beckley, Lance's Taxi LN Factoid is as solid as factoids get!

Your "clever" theory does not smell any less concocted on this thread when compared to the actual WC testimony of Mrs. Roberts
Deliberately omitted by yourself either by hope to deceive or ignorance , one ?

Your "conspiracy Theory"  is more concocted than "Clever"
Survey says your slippery theory is a bust according to Mrs Roberts testimony , which you have completely misrepresented , either in deliberate dishonesty or ignorance , one .
Your purposedly left out omissions include the fact that Mrs. Roberts testified that she actually worked for & was on a friendly basis with a police officer and his wife , and it was not uncommon for him to stop by the rooming house to relay messages from his wife. back and forth
Not only was She was very familiar with make and model of the patrol cars used , she was very familiar with her friends particular number of his car, and at first glance thought it was his car ( 170) but soon saw that it was not his car.

the police car that I knew and had worked for so, I forgot about it. I seen
it at the time, but I don’t remember now what it was.
Mr. BALL. Did you report the number of the car to anyone?
Mrs. ROBERTS. I think I did-I’m not sure, because I-at that particular
time I remembered it.
Mr. BALL. You remembered the number of the car?
Mrs. ROBERTS. I think it was-106 it seems to me like it was 106, but I do
know what theirs was-it was 170 and it wasn’t their car.
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Mr. BALL. It was not 170?
Mrs. ROBERTS. The people I worked for n-as 170.
Mr. BALL. Did you report that number to anyone, did you report this incident
to anyone?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Yes, I told the FBI and the Secret Service both when they was

[John Mytton]

And of course the Dallas police force had that day's patrol record of a two man team working Oswald's neighborhood?
You are a little slow on the uptake .
But you are making progress & getting warmer .
Appreciate your help .
Good Lookin out !

So, now you don't think it was Tippit blowing his horn?

Your choice #3 does not take into account Tippits's signaling for Oswald to come forth from the rooming house just 15 minutes prior to his being gunned down ?
A first effort by Tippit for Oswald to respond at the rooming house a couple taps of the horn, more subtle than his creeping along beside him down the street talking to him, as Oswald who was no dummy, has now seen the rouse for what it is and is telling Tippit he will take care of himself, thanks but ,no thanks
You can literally see Tippit's efforts to convince Oswald that he is to be his guide through the ominous crisis that now enveloped him if he will just get in the car escalating level by level.

Or maybe Tippit had a blow up companion?



Just admit that you are making this up as you go along and that's fine because no one has ever made a plausible alternative to the official version but you Watson, you could be the man that makes history!

JohnM

[John Mytton]

Mr. BALL. Did this police car stop directly in front of your house?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Yes--it stopped directly in front of my house and it just "tip-tip" and that's the way Officer Alexander and Charles Burnely would do when they stopped, and I went to the door and looked and saw it wasn't their number.

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For example, how many of us knew that, although Earlene Roberts was besieged by reporters soon after Oswald was apprehended, nearly a full week passed before she mentioned anything to anyone about a police car stopping by the house? I didn't know that. Yet the written record is unequivocal about it, and Myers' personal interviews with a number of newsmen and law enforcement officers who questioned Roberts at the time confirm that only later did the story about the police car arise.

Come to think of it, did anyone ever look into the two police officers, Burnley and Alexander, that Roberts reportedly knew, whom she said she initially thought must be paying her a visit? Surely someone MUST have. But no, Myers is the first. He tracked down Charles T. Burnley, the one and only "Burnley" on the police force in 1963, who told Myers he'd never so much as heard of Earlene Roberts or her story until being informed of it around 1991-92. Roberts did know a DPD officer named Floyd J. Alexander, Sr., though, the man she describes in her testimony as a former employer. Myers found Alexander and confirmed this. The only problem is that Alexander had resigned from the force in 1957, leading one to wonder why Mrs. Roberts would be expecting him to visit in a squad car in 1963.

Perhaps it isn't so strange, then, that Alexander recalled Roberts as someone who wasn't "very bright, had a limited number of friends, and would do almost anything to get attention." The last word may belong to Roberts' former employer Gladys Johnson, who recalled having fired Roberts "a time or two" for some of her strange habits, one of which, Mrs. Johnson told Myers, was "[j]ust sitting down and making up tales."
https://www.jfk-online.com/myers.html

JohnM

[Lance Payette]

Mr. BALL. Did this police car stop directly in front of your house?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Yes--it stopped directly in front of my house and it just "tip-tip" and that's the way Officer Alexander and Charles Burnely would do when they stopped, and I went to the door and looked and saw it wasn't their number.

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For example, how many of us knew that, although Earlene Roberts was besieged by reporters soon after Oswald was apprehended, nearly a full week passed before she mentioned anything to anyone about a police car stopping by the house? I didn't know that. Yet the written record is unequivocal about it, and Myers' personal interviews with a number of newsmen and law enforcement officers who questioned Roberts at the time confirm that only later did the story about the police car arise.

Come to think of it, did anyone ever look into the two police officers, Burnley and Alexander, that Roberts reportedly knew, whom she said she initially thought must be paying her a visit? Surely someone MUST have. But no, Myers is the first. He tracked down Charles T. Burnley, the one and only "Burnley" on the police force in 1963, who told Myers he'd never so much as heard of Earlene Roberts or her story until being informed of it around 1991-92. Roberts did know a DPD officer named Floyd J. Alexander, Sr., though, the man she describes in her testimony as a former employer. Myers found Alexander and confirmed this. The only problem is that Alexander had resigned from the force in 1957, leading one to wonder why Mrs. Roberts would be expecting him to visit in a squad car in 1963.

Perhaps it isn't so strange, then, that Alexander recalled Roberts as someone who wasn't "very bright, had a limited number of friends, and would do almost anything to get attention." The last word may belong to Roberts' former employer Gladys Johnson, who recalled having fired Roberts "a time or two" for some of her strange habits, one of which, Mrs. Johnson told Myers, was "[j]ust sitting down and making up tales."
https://www.jfk-online.com/myers.html

JohnM

I'm sort of sorry I started my taxi thread because now I'm jumping between the two, but I truly believe the plausible alternatives are (1) a taxi or (2) the event simply never happened. Either of those seems to me FAR more plausible than what Earlene said. Contrary to what Walton says, I don't feel as though I'm misrepresenting her testimony so much as highlighting her self-admitted physical limitations, her unquestionable confusion, and the implausibility of her tale. To suggest that the tit-titting "police" car was Tippit or had anything to do with the death of Tippit strikes me as one of those scenarios that cannot pass the "What sense would that make?" test.

[John Mytton]

To suggest that the tit-titting "police" car was Tippit or had anything to do with the death of Tippit strikes me as one of those scenarios that cannot pass the "What sense would that make?" test.

If Oswald stayed on the bus then he wouldn't have been at the rooming house when the toot-tooting happened.
If Oswald got out of the cab when it was at the rooming house then he wouldn't have been at the rooming house when the toot-tooting happened.

The only narrative I can suggest is that the Police Car drove by and saw Oswald walking to the Rooming House so they decided to stop by, toot and then keep going, which is just absurd or the most logical scenario, Earlene after a week of being questioned added some spice!

JohnM

[Watson Phillips]

To suggest that the tit-titting "police" car was Tippit or had anything to do with the death of Tippit strikes me as one of those scenarios that cannot pass the "What sense would that make?" test.

Evidenced by the fact that Family Man, War Hero Tippit was soon to become daddy to the child of one his buddy's strippers , who by the way was about to become an unemployed unwed former stripper in financial need , Oswald was not the only one in a desperate bind.

Interesting how the individuals who are in desperate  need  seem to end up dead in connection to jack Ruby .
So says Chief Justice Warren :

When Chief Justice Warren and other members of the Commission on June 7, 1964, interviewed Ruby at the Dallas County jail. General Counsel Rankin told Ruby:

There was a story that you were sitting in your Carousel Club with Mr. (Bernard) Weissman, Officer Tippit, and another man who has been called a rich oil man, at one time shortly before the assassination. Can you tell us anything about that?'

To which Ruby replied with a counter-question: 'Who was the rich oil man?'

After that, unbelievably, the subject was dropped. Apparently, Messrs. Warren and Rankin felt they were getting too warm. Ruby's reaction indicated that he was ready to talk since he had nothing to lose. But the Commission members

weren't looking for the truth. They shied away from it, as from the plague. And so the topic was quickly shifted. Ruby