Why Would Tippit Leave Himself a Sitting Duck For An Armed Cold Blooded Killer ?

[John Mytton]

Evidenced by the fact that Family Man, War Hero Tippit was soon to become daddy to the child of one his buddy's strippers , who by the way was about to become an unemployed unwed former stripper in financial need , Oswald was not the only one in a desperate bind.

Interesting how the individuals who are in desperate  need  seem to end up dead in connection to jack Ruby .
So says Chief Justice Warren :

When Chief Justice Warren and other members of the Commission on June 7, 1964, interviewed Ruby at the Dallas County jail. General Counsel Rankin told Ruby:

There was a story that you were sitting in your Carousel Club with Mr. (Bernard) Weissman, Officer Tippit, and another man who has been called a rich oil man, at one time shortly before the assassination. Can you tell us anything about that?'

To which Ruby replied with a counter-question: 'Who was the rich oil man?'

After that, unbelievably, the subject was dropped. Apparently, Messrs. Warren and Rankin felt they were getting too warm. Ruby's reaction indicated that he was ready to talk since he had nothing to lose. But the Commission members

weren't looking for the truth. They shied away from it, as from the plague. And so the topic was quickly shifted. Ruby

Mr. RANKIN. Did you know Officer Tippit?
Mr. RUBY. I knew there was three Tippits on the force. The only one I knew used to work for the special services, and I am certain this wasn't the Tippit, this wasn't the man.
Mr. RANKIN. The man that was murdered. There was a story that you were seen sitting in your Carousel Club with Mr. Weissman, Officer Tippit, and another who has been called a rich oil man, at one time shortly before the assassination. Can you tell us anything about that?
Mr. RUBY. Who was the rich oil man?
Mr. RANKIN. Can you remember? We haven't been told. We are just trying to find out anything that you know about him.
Mr. RUBY. I am the one that made such a big issue of Bernard Weissman's ad. Maybe you do things to cover up, if you are capable of doing it.
As a matter of fact, SaPersonay afternoon we went over to the Turf Bar lounge, and it was a whole hullabaloo, and I showed the pictures "Impeach Earl Warren" to Bellocchio, and he saw the pictures and got very emotional.
And Bellocchio said, "Why did the newspaper take this ad of Weissman?"
And Bellocchio said, "I have got to leave Dallas."
And suddenly after making that statement, I realized it is his incapability, and suddenly you do things impulsively, and suddenly you realize if you love the city, you stay here and you make the best of it. And there were witnesses.
I said, "The city was good enough for you all before this. Now you feel that way about it." And that was Bellocchio.
As far as Tippit, it is not Tippitts, it is not Tippitts it is Tippit.
Mr. RANKIN. This Weissman and the rich oil man, did you ever have a conversation with them?
Mr. RUBY. There was only a few. Bill Rudman from the YMCA, and I haven't seen him in years.
And there is a Bill Howard, but he is not a rich oil man. He owns the Stork Club now. He used to dabble in oil.
Chief Justice WARREN. This story was given by a lawyer by the name of Mark Lane, who is representing Mrs. Marguerite Oswald, the mother of Lee Harvey Oswald, and it was in the paper, so we subpenaed him, and he testified that someone had given him information to the effect that a week or two before President Kennedy was assassinated, that in your Carousel Club you and Weissman and Tippit, Officer Tippit, the one who was killed, and a rich oil man had an interview or conversation for an hour or two.
And we asked him who it was that told him, and he said that it was confidential and he couldn't tell at the moment, but that he would find out for us if whether he could be released or not from his confidential relationship.
He has never done it, and we have written him several letters asking him to disclose the name of that person, and he has never complied.
Mr. RUBY. Isn't that foolish? If a man is patriotic enough in the first place, who am I to be concerned if he wasn't an informer.
I am incarcerated, nothing to be worried about anyone hurting me.
Chief Justice WARREN. Mr. Ruby, I am not questioning your story at all. I wanted you to know the background of this thing, and to know that it was with us only hearsay. But I did feel that our record should show that we would ask you the question and that you would answer it, and you have answered it.
Mr. RUBY. How many days prior to the assassination was that?
Chief Justice WARREN. My recollection is that it was a week or two. Is that correct?
Mr. RUBY. Did anyone have any knowledge that their beloved President was going to visit here prior to that time, or what is the definite time that they knew he was coming to Dallas?
Chief Justice WARREN. Well, I don't know just what those dates are.
Mr. RUBY. I see.
Chief Justice WARREN. I just don't know. Well, we wanted to ask you that question, because this man had so testified, and we have been trying ever since to get him to give the source of his information, but he will not do it, so we will leave that matter as it is.

JohnM

[Lance Payette]

Evidenced by the fact that Family Man, War Hero Tippit was soon to become daddy to the child of one his buddy's strippers , who by the way was about to become an unemployed unwed former stripper in financial need , Oswald was not the only one in a desperate bind.

Interesting how the individuals who are in desperate  need  seem to end up dead in connection to jack Ruby .
So says Chief Justice Warren:

Maybe it's just me - really - but I often have a difficult time following the connections you're trying to make.

If we stipulate that Tippit was about to become the father of an illegitimate child by a Ruby-affiliated stripper who was about to become unemployed - a massively generous stipulation, I'm sure you'll agree - how in your thinking would this put Tippit in a "desperate bind" on November 22nd and how would it connect to a police car with two uniformed officers and a three-digit number toot-tooting in front of the Beckley rooming house and then driving off?

For that matter, how would it connect to Tippit stopping Oswald and negligently allowing himself to be shot? I'm really not following the logic.

[Watson Phillips]

Maybe it's just me - really - but I often have a difficult time following the connections you're trying to make.

If we stipulate that Tippit was about to become the father of an illegitimate child by a Ruby-affiliated stripper who was about to become unemployed - a massively generous stipulation, I'm sure you'll agree - how in your thinking would this put Tippit in a "desperate bind" on November 22nd and how would it connect to a police car with two uniformed officers and a three-digit number toot-tooting in front of the Beckley rooming house and then driving off?

For that matter, how would it connect to Tippit stopping Oswald and negligently allowing himself to be shot? I'm really not following the logic.

Police are the perfect assassins & the perfect victims of assassination
Both circumstances can be owed up to their chosen profession .
Policemen are murdered all the time and nobody would ever question it happened for any other reason than the uniform they are wearing.
Likewise a policeman can gun down a fleeing dangerous criminal and no one would ever suspect an ulterior motive for the police doing so.
If after all he and Oswald's socializing Tippit FINALLY got out of the car  because he considered Oswald  a dangerous criminal why would he have not called for back up as is standard procedure?
He is in a car , Oswald on foot there was no way Oswald was going to escape anywhere.
Why did Tippit break such basic fundamentals of police protocol , walking right into the line of fire and getting himself killed , when he could have had that entire area swarming with police cars with one call.
Every action screams the fact that Tippit was trying to get Oswald in the car as quietly and with as little notice as possible.
It was no coincidence after A seasoned policeman  broke every fundamental rule trying to get Oswald in a police car, getting himself killed in the process that Oswald was only hours from  himself getting shot down  surrounded by police in a police station.



None was more acquainted with that fact that with Oswald & Tippit  dead he represented the most obvious lose end to be taken care of than Jack Ruby.
Who do you think Jack Ruby was so afraid of killing him now that he was in custody ?
Ruby knew the drill only to well .


Jack Ruby tells Earl Warren his life is in danger
Jack Ruby tells Earl Warren his life is in danger

Ruby told Earl Warren that he would "come clean" if he was moved from Dallas and allowed to testify in Washington. He told Warren "my life is in danger here". He added: "I want to tell the truth, and I can't tell it here." Warren refused to have Ruby moved and so he refused to tell what he knew about the assassination of John F. Kennedy.

[John Mytton]

Police are the perfect assassins & the perfect victims of assassination
Both circumstances can be owed up to their chosen profession .
Policemen are murdered all the time and nobody would ever question it happened for any other reason than the uniform they are wearing.

The Dallas Police Department Memorial Page shows that between 1951-1967 only 3 Police Officers died from gunfire and another 3 from vehicle crashes.


https://www.odmp.org/agency/924-dallas-police-department-texas

JohnM

[Jim Hawthorn]

This notion of Tippit being in Ruby's inner circle is very interesting. What is the evidence of that? (Does this deserve a separate thread?).

[John Iacoletti]

FWIW, in my teens in the 1960s I was stopped by police in Arizona a sufficiently embarrassing number of times that I had to provide an explanation to the State Bar when I became a lawyer in 1982. At no time did any officer approach me as though I might be a crazed killer.

That requires being a minority.

[John Iacoletti]

Dale Myers specifically addresses this issue at the Tippit memorial site: https://www.jdtippit.com/faq.htm

In the FAQ "Why did Tippit stop Oswald?" he takes us through the witnesses who support that Oswald abruptly changed direction from west to east and that this caught Tippit's eye.

It's purely contrived.  Not only was Helen "Utter Screwball" Markham the only witness who claimed that the man was walking East (there's no good reason to believe Tatum was even there), nobody saw this alleged "direction change", nor did anybody (in particular Scoggins and Markham) see the man go by twice.

[Bill Brown]

I don’t think that there is any way we will ever know for certain what caused Tippit to pull over. But Dale Myers does make a good case for that theory. I have also imagined this: provided Dale is right about the direction of LHO walking west, it appears to me that the taxi cab parked on the corner would have been prominent in LHO’s vision as he approached it. A theory that includes LHO either raising his hand to hail the taxi or LHO beginning to run towards the taxi, or both, in an effort to try to make sure that the taxi didn’t leave before he got there, could have gotten Tippit’s attention. Tippit might have even thought LHO was raising his hand as a gesture for Tippit to pull over. But, again, I don’t beleive that we will never know these things for certain.

Fair points.