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Offline Watson Phillips

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Re: The mysterious police car in front of the Beckley rooming house
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2025, 04:42:43 PM »
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It's my factoid, bub, and I can pick and choose as I damn well please.

Obviously !
Concocting your own factoids is as slippery as it gets .
For me I'll stick to the actual testimony

the police car that I knew and had worked for so, I forgot about it. I seen
it at the time, but I don’t remember now what it was.
Mr. BALL. Did you report the number of the car to anyone?
Mrs. ROBERTS. I think I did-I’m not sure, because I-at that particular
time I remembered it.
Mr. BALL. You remembered the number of the car?
Mrs. ROBERTS. I think it was-106 it seems to me like it was 106, but I do
know what theirs was-it was 170 and it wasn’t their car.
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Mr. BALL. It was not 170?
Mrs. ROBERTS. The people I worked for n-as 170.
Mr. BALL. Did you report that number to anyone, did you report this incident
to anyone?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Yes, I told the FBI and the Secret Service both when they was

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Offline Lance Payette

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Re: The mysterious police car in front of the Beckley rooming house
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2025, 05:01:41 PM »
Obviously !
Concocting your own factoids is as slippery as it gets .

It is, isn't it? How many of your fellow CTers agree with your sentiments? One person's factoid is another's gospel, I suppose.

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For me I'll stick to the actual testimony

the police car that I knew and had worked for so, I forgot about it. I seen
it at the time, but I don’t remember now what it was.
Mr. BALL. Did you report the number of the car to anyone?
Mrs. ROBERTS. I think I did-I’m not sure, because I-at that particular
time I remembered it.
Mr. BALL. You remembered the number of the car?
Mrs. ROBERTS. I think it was-106 it seems to me like it was 106, but I do
know what theirs was-it was 170 and it wasn’t their car.
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Mr. BALL. It was not 170?
Mrs. ROBERTS. The people I worked for n-as 170.
Mr. BALL. Did you report that number to anyone, did you report this incident
to anyone?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Yes, I told the FBI and the Secret Service both when they was


Yes, but at the time of the JFKA she said the number was 207: https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth339485/m1/1/.

I don't insist my Taxi Factoid is true. I merely say it provides a plausible alternative explanation for what doddering Aunt Earlene says she saw, one that raises none of the questions her story does.

If there were no other known Dallas police cars in the vicinity, Tippit's car was #10, Dallas patrol cars had only one officer, and a three-digit Dallas police car with two officers pulled up in front of the rooming house, tooted its horn and departed (just like a taxi might have done!) - well, what sense does that make? how likely is that? what would be even a plausible conspiratorial explanation?

"They" were alerting Oswald by their toot that ... well, what, that Tippit was waiting him? That the coast was clear? Not to forget his .38? What were they doing? And why did "they" need two officers in a police car to do it? Far more plausible to me is that Earlene was simply confused by a taxi or more than slightly "off."

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Re: The mysterious police car in front of the Beckley rooming house
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2025, 05:03:29 PM »
Alternatively, Aunt Earlene was fundamentally nuts, which is another distinct possibility.

Mr. BALL. Has she been working for you for that period of time?
Mrs. JOHNSON. No, sir; I let Mrs. Roberts go a time or two, then I would hire her back.
Mr. BALL. there some reason why you let her go?
Mrs. JOHNSON. Well, she would just get to being disagreeable with renters and I don't know, she has a lot of handicaps. She has an overweight problem and she has some habits that some people have to understand to tolerate.
Mr. BALL. What are they?
Mrs. JOHNSON. Talking just sitting down and making up tales, you know, have you ever seen people like that? Just have a creative mind, there's nothing to it, and just make up and keep talking until she just makes a lie out of it. Listen, I'm telling you the truth and this isn't to go any further, understand that? You have to know these things because you are going to question this lady. I will tell you, she's just as intelligent--I think she is a person that doesn't mean to do that but she just does it automatically. It seems as though that she, oh, I don't know, wants to be attractive or something at times. I just don't know; I don't understand it myself. I only wish I did.


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Re: The mysterious police car in front of the Beckley rooming house
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2025, 05:17:26 PM »
Mr. BALL. Has she been working for you for that period of time?
Mrs. JOHNSON. No, sir; I let Mrs. Roberts go a time or two, then I would hire her back.
Mr. BALL. there some reason why you let her go?
Mrs. JOHNSON. Well, she would just get to being disagreeable with renters and I don't know, she has a lot of handicaps. She has an overweight problem and she has some habits that some people have to understand to tolerate.
Mr. BALL. What are they?
Mrs. JOHNSON. Talking just sitting down and making up tales, you know, have you ever seen people like that? Just have a creative mind, there's nothing to it, and just make up and keep talking until she just makes a lie out of it. Listen, I'm telling you the truth and this isn't to go any further, understand that? You have to know these things because you are going to question this lady. I will tell you, she's just as intelligent--I think she is a person that doesn't mean to do that but she just does it automatically. It seems as though that she, oh, I don't know, wants to be attractive or something at times. I just don't know; I don't understand it myself. I only wish I did.


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    The above is not uncommon when being unable to dispute the facts in evidence. Therefore, put the witness/Roberts on trial.

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Re: The mysterious police car in front of the Beckley rooming house
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2025, 05:45:17 PM »
    The above is not uncommon when being unable to dispute the facts in evidence. Therefore, put the witness/Roberts on trial.

The Police car story miraculously emerged after a full week of Earlene Roberts being extensively questioned!
I never knew Earlene Roberts and you didn't know Earlene Roberts but Mrs Johnson who employed Earlene Roberts for many years knew her well and Mrs Johnson simply stated what she knew about Earlene, why do you have a problem with Mrs Johnson's opinion?

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« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2025, 05:51:26 PM »

  I have a problem with a Witness being put on trial. Whether it be a JFK Assassination Witness or an alleged Rape Victim.

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Re: The mysterious police car in front of the Beckley rooming house
« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2025, 06:06:22 PM »
  I have a problem with a Witness being put on trial. Whether it be a JFK Assassination Witness or an alleged Rape Victim.

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I have a problem with a Witness being put on trial.

How was Earlene Roberts on trial? The WC never even confronted Earlene with Johnson's revelation!

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Whether it be a JFK Assassination Witness or an alleged Rape Victim.

Wow! That went unnecessarily dark very quickly and I'll just leave that there. Thanks for your contribution.

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Re: The mysterious police car in front of the Beckley rooming house
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2025, 09:08:56 PM »

  Clearly Roberts was put on trial. The goal being to paint her as being elderly and "wanting" and/or "needy". And why would they confront her with the Johnson allegations? That would have given her the opportunity to refute those accusations.

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« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2025, 09:08:56 PM »