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Online Tom Graves

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JFKA conspiracy theorists psychologically need to believe that a governmental agency, or rogue actors thereof, killed JFK.

Thoughts?

Feelings?

Borderline-hysterical rants?

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Online Jim Hawthorn

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French President Valéry Giscard d'Estaing a few years ago about his private conversations with Gerald Ford:

"Gerald Ford was part of the Warren Commission, which was charged with investigating the Kennedy assassination. So I took a car ride with him once in the United States. He was president and I was president myself. I said to him, 'I'm asking you a prying question: you were on the Warren Commission, what conclusions did you reach?' He told me, 'It's not satisfactory. We reached an initial conclusion: it wasn't an isolated crime, it was something organized. We were sure it was organized. But we couldn't find out by whom. So there was an organization, which was never really exposed, that detested, hated, or feared President Kennedy, and decided to get rid of him.'"

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French President Valéry Giscard d'Estaing a few years ago about his private conversations with Gerald Ford:

"Gerald Ford was part of the Warren Commission, which was charged with investigating the Kennedy assassination. So I took a car ride with him once in the United States. He was president and I was president myself. I said to him, 'I'm asking you a prying question: you were on the Warren Commission, what conclusions did you reach?' He told me, 'It's not satisfactory. We reached an initial conclusion: it wasn't an isolated crime, it was something organized. We were sure it was organized. But we couldn't find out by whom. So there was an organization, which was never really exposed, that detested, hated, or feared President Kennedy, and decided to get rid of him.'"

Ford wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.
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Online Jon Banks

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JFKA conspiracy theorists psychologically need to believe that a governmental agency, or rogue actors thereof, killed JFK.

Thoughts?

Feelings?

Borderline-hysterical rants?

^Your post sounds like Russian disinformation. You're trying to sow discord among Americans.

We are still a free society where our citizens have the freedom to criticize our government (for now).


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Your post sounds like Russian disinformation. You're trying to sow discord among Americans.

How ironic, Banks.

The KGB* has already been doing that for sixty-six years (it started in 1959), and to great effect, too, as can be seen with Vladimir Putin's being able to install The Traitorous Orange Bird (rhymes with Xxxx) as our "President" in 2017 and 2025.

Question: How many bad guys and bad gals do you figure were wittingly involved, altogether, in the planning, the "patsy-ing," the shooting, and the all-important cover up?

Just a few, or oodles and gobs?

*Today's SVR and FSB
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JFKA conspiracy theorists psychologically need to believe that a governmental agency, or rogue actors thereof, killed JFK.

Thoughts?

Feelings?

Borderline-hysterical rants?

Sure, I believe there is a reason that CIA-oriented conspiracy theories are the rage while more plausible ones, like the Mafia, get short shrift. The Morley-Newman-Di Eugenio wing of Conspiracy World epitomizes this. These are mostly extremely left-leaning characters who believe the country has gone to hell in a handbasket since the JFKA and that we'd be living in a near-utopia if JFK and RFK had lived. They have elevated JFK and RFK to near sainthood, even to the extent of imagining policies and accomplishments that simply aren't true. The theorizing almost works in reverse: the country has gone to hell since the JFKA, hence the Dark Evil Forces responsible for this "must" have been responsible for the JFKA. I think they are less interested in the JFKA as a historical event than as a validation of their worldview. Plus, of course, elaborate CIA-type theories are simply more fun than some mundane Mafia hit. The LN narrative, of course, is completely unacceptable since it explains and validates nothing.

I started a thread on this topic at the Ed Forum after I'd been a member only a short time because what I was observing was so screamingly obvious. Suffice it to say, it wasn't popular.

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Sure, I believe there is a reason that CIA-oriented conspiracy theories are the rage while more plausible ones, like the Mafia, get short shrift. The Morley-Newman-Di Eugenio wing of Conspiracy World epitomizes this. These are mostly extremely left-leaning characters who believe the country has gone to hell in a handbasket since the JFKA and that we'd be living in a near-utopia if JFK and RFK had lived. They have elevated JFK and RFK to near sainthood, even to the extent of imagining policies and accomplishments that simply aren't true. The theorizing almost works in reverse: the country has gone to hell since the JFKA, hence the Dark Evil Forces responsible for this "must" have been responsible for the JFKA. I think they are less interested in the JFKA as a historical event than as a validation of their worldview. Plus, of course, elaborate CIA-type theories are simply more fun than some mundane Mafia hit. The LN narrative, of course, is completely unacceptable since it explains and validates nothing.

I started a thread on this topic at the Ed Forum after I'd been a member only a short time because what I was observing was so screamingly obvious. Suffice it to say, it wasn't popular.

IMHO, it boils down to whether one hates / fears the "evil, evil, evil" CIA so much for employing "dirty, dirty" methods in its trying (since 1947 when it was formed) to fend off even more-evil Soviet Communism that one is willing to accept the idea that . . . gasp . . . GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE SBT THEORY IS A HOAX AND JFK'S HEAD "OBVIOUSLY" WAS SHOT FROM THE FRONT, ETC, ETC, ETC, OODLES AND GOBS of CIA bad guys and CIA bad gals MUST HAVE BEEN wittingly involved in the planning, the "patsy-ing," the shooting (and at least part of the FBI's / DPD's / Secret Service's egg-on-face CYA cover up)!!!

Regardless, thank God we can now sit back and relax and tell ourselves, "THE COLD WAR IS OVER, AND WE WON!!!," even though a "former" KGB officer / Russian Mafia Godfather did install our "President" in 2017 and 2025.

(sarcasm)
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How ironic, Banks.

The KGB* has already been doing that for sixty-six years (it started in 1959), and to great effect, too, as can be seen with Vladimir Putin's being able to install The Traitorous Orange Bird (rhymes with Xxxx) as our "President" in 2017 and 2025.


It’s 2025 and you still believe the Russiagate nonsense?

And yet you have the audacity to call other people CT’ers?

Please elaborate on how Putin installed Trump in the White House. You know I love a good conspiracy theory 😂


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