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Online Tom Graves

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Because you’re sowing discord. For all we know, YOU could be the KGB troll. 🧌

And you don’t even have the honesty to admit that you’re speculating about Russia’s role in our elections.

There’s no proof that Trump didn’t win the 2016 and 2024 elections fair and square.

I say this as a lifelong Democrat who was honest enough to admit that the Russiagate conspiracy theories were full of gaping holes…

And you've always thought the CIA was much more evil than the KGB*, right?

*Today's SVR and FSB

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I think 90% of those on the Far Left and on the Far Right believe the JFK assassination was committed by the evil, evil, evil CIA (or rogue agents thereof).
But the Left believes it because they think JFK was some sort of threat to the "national security state". He was going to, in their view, end the Cold War (or greatly reduce it), get out of Vietnam, normalize relations with Castro and so on. That is, essentially overturn the containment policies the US created after WWII. Plus, they think those policies were immoral and wrong and that the US was the chief cause of the Cold War anyway.

So the CIA had to kill him.

I don't think the Far Right sees JFK as that sort of president. They certainly don't think the Cold War was caused by the US, that the communists weren't a threat. So why they think JFK was killed by the "deep state" is a mystery to me.

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The problem is, Lefty-Banksie, you probably think The Cold War ended in December 1991, and that even before that, the KGB* and the GRU were world-class (pardon the pun) humanitarian organizations, right?

*Today's SVR and FSB

No, the problem is that I know too much about US intelligence operations outside of the Kennedy assassination.

I’ve read biographies on Allan Dulles, James Angelton, and various books about covert operations abroad. I’ve studied COINTELPRO, MKULTRA, CHAOS, etc.

It’s not just my political biases but also the pattern of behavior of our national security state which leads me to believe it’s plausible that they were complicit in the Kennedy assassination.

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[T]he US was the chief cause of the Cold War anyway.

Right on!!!

(LOL)

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JFKA conspiracy theorists psychologically need to believe that a governmental agency, or rogue actors thereof, killed JFK.

Thoughts?

Feelings?

Borderline-hysterical rants?

Coming from anyone else this might be a serious question but coming from a guy who believes Russia and Putin are behind almost every event in history it is unintentionally hilarious.  All baseless conspiracy theories from UFO to Bigfoot to JFK assassination need a government conspiracy by necessity to explain why they can never prove their pet conspiracy.   Why?  Because the government men in black are always just a step ahead to cover it up. 

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No, the problem is that I know too much about US intelligence operations outside of the Kennedy assassination.

I’ve read biographies on Allan Dulles, James Angelton, and various books about covert operations abroad. I’ve studied COINTELPRO, MKULTRA, CHAOS, etc.

It’s not just my political biases but also the pattern of behavior of our national security state which leads me to believe it’s plausible that they were complicit in the Kennedy assassination.

I hear you, Bro.

The evil, evil CIA did all of those nasty, nasty things against the world-class humanitarian organizations known as the KGB* and the GRU!!!

You know what's really groovy? Comrade Morley's book, The Ghost, about James JESUS Angleton!!! (Even though he still believes Yuri Nosenko was a true defector.)

Peace, Bro!!!

Why don't you do yourself a favor and google probable mole "Bruce Leonard Solie," and CIA good-guy, "Tennent H. Bagley," for starters?

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I think 90% of those on the Far Left and on the Far Right believe the JFK assassination was committed by the evil, evil, evil CIA (or rogue agents thereof).

Steve is correct that there are factions of the far-Left who follow Noam Chomsky’s view of the JFK assassination. Chomsky doesn’t believe Kennedy wanted to get out of Vietnam (Chomsky has been proven wrong since the 90s) and he doesn’t believe there was a conspiracy.

There’s definitely not universal or 90% support for opposition to the LN narrative on the Left.

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Coming from anyone else this might be a serious question but coming from a guy who believes Russia and Putin are behind almost every event in history it is unintentionally hilarious.  All baseless conspiracy theories from UFO to Bigfoot to JFK assassination need a government conspiracy by necessity to explain why they can never prove their pet conspiracy.   Why?  Because the government men in black are always just a step ahead to cover it up.

We know for a fact that the KGB created "Operation Infektion," so it wouldn't surprise me if it has pushed "Flying Saucers Are Real," "The Alien Presence," and "Big Foot" garbage, as well.

Why don't you look it up, Smith?

Not to mention its publishing an anti-CIA / anti-Clay Shaw article in a Communist-owned Italian newspaper (Paese Sera) three days after an overly-ambitious, scandal-plagued and revengeful New Orleans DA by the name of Jim Garrison had arrested Shaw for the JFKA, which article motivated him to change his theory against Shaw from "He masterminded a homosexual thrill-kill assassination of JFK!!!" to "He supervised it for the CIA!!!"
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