JFKA CTs need to believe a government agency or rogue actors thereof killed JFK

[Tom Graves]

I see what you're trying to do Vlad.

It's ironic that you call me "Vlad," Left-Banksie, when you're the one who's been brainwashed by sixty-six years of KGB* disinformation (including but not limited to, oodles and gobs of KGB*-encouraged JFKA conspiracy theories), "active measures," and mole-based "Inside Man" / "Outside Man" strategic deception counterintelligence operations waged against us and our NATO allies.

*Today's SVR and FSB

[T]he recently unredacted memo proves that it was true that JFK was concerned about the CIA "going rogue."

Was the memo written by JFK or by Schlessinger, Banksie?

[Jon Banks]

It's ironic that you call me "Vlad," Left-Banksie, when you're the one who's been brainwashed by sixty-six years of KGB* disinformation (including but not limited to, oodles and gobs of KGB*-encouraged JFKA conspiracy theories), "active measures," and mole-based "Inside Man" / "Outside Man" strategic deception counterintelligence operations waged against us and our NATO allies.

Given that you still believe in 2025 that Putin rigged the 2016 and 2024 US elections, there's nothing you can say to insult me 

The speculation that others were involved with JFK's assassination has far more substance than your theories about Putin propping up Trump.

The very first high level US official to speculate about CIA involvement with JFK’s assassination was his brother Robert Kennedy, who reportedly asked CIA director McCone if the CIA was involved during the immediate aftermath of the JFK assassination.

How rogue was the CIA in 1963 for RFK Sr. to seriously wonder if they were involved?

There’s no evidence that RFK’s speculation was influenced by the “KGB”.

[Tom Graves]

[Y]ou still believe in 2025 that Putin rigged the 2016 and 2024 US elections [...].

Left Banks,

Do you deny that "former" KGB officer Vladimir Putin originally just wanted Hillary to lose, and when more and more Republican candidates started dropping out of the race he decided that he wanted Trump to win? Do you deny that seventeen U.S. intelligence agencies determined after the election that Putin's professional Saint Petersburg trolls, his GRU and FSB hackers, and one oligarch in particular, Oleg Deripaska, had tried to help Trump win?

Do you deny that Hillary got three million more votes than Trump nationwide, but Trump "won" the Electoral College because he got a total of about 78,000 more votes than her in three critical "swing" states, Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, about which states Trump's campaign manager, pro-Russia Paul Manafort, had given Trump Campaign polling data and strategy to his GRU helper, Konstantin Kilimnik, who in turn gave it to Putin's oligarch Oleg Deripaska so that Putin's trolls could target certain voters in those states and encourage them to get off the couch and go vote for The Traitorous Orange Bird (rhymes with Xxxx)?

I voted for Hillary Clinton, Banksie.

For whom did you vote (if you voted at all)?

Pro-Putin anti-vaxxer Jill Stein, by any chance, who got more votes in two of those states than Trump got over Clinton in them?

[Joe Elliott]

JFKA conspiracy theorists psychologically need to believe that a governmental agency, or rogue actors thereof, killed JFK.

Thoughts?

Feelings?

Borderline-hysterical rants?

Most any conspiracy theory tells a more interesting story than the truth, the most likely truth is that Oswald alone murdered JFK. Good stories work. They always have. They always will.

[Jon Banks]

I voted for Hillary Clinton, Banksie.

For whom did you vote (if you voted at all)?

Pro-Putin anti-vaxxer Jill Stein, by any chance, who got more votes in two of those states than Trump got over Clinton in them?

I too voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 fyi.

Initially, I was receptive to the “Trump-Putin collusion” stuff but became more skeptical over time as one theory after another got debunked and the Christopher Steele dossier was exposed as a fraud.

We now know that most of those theories from the 2016 election originated from Clinton campaign operatives who paid for oppo-research on Trump in 2016. They laundered false information from the Steele dossier through the Press.

The Mueller investigation did not find any conspiracy between Trump’s campaign and Russia. At worst, Trump’s campaign didn’t disapprove of the Russians spreading “dirt” about Hillary.

[Jarrett Smith]

Most any conspiracy theory tells a more interesting story than the truth, the most likely truth is that Oswald alone murdered JFK. Good stories work. They always have. They always will.

While I will always believe it was a mafia hit, the real conspiracy was Government agencies covering their asses. Secret Service just looked around and left him be killed and illegally removed his body. The autopsy was half assed thanks to RFK hurrying the doctors, then stealing the brain from the archives. The autopsy photos were doctored it goes on and on.

[Tim Nickerson]

While I will always believe it was a mafia hit, the real conspiracy was Government agencies covering their asses. Secret Service just looked around and left him be killed and illegally removed his body. The autopsy was half assed thanks to RFK hurrying the doctors, then stealing the brain from the archives. The autopsy photos were doctored it goes on and on.

The Secret Service did not illegally remove his body. The brain was not stolen. It did not belong to the National Archives. The autopsy photos were not doctored. They were confirmed as being authentic and unaltered by the Bethesda pathologists, by the photographer who took them, and by the HSCA's 22 member panel of photographic analysis experts.

[Tom Graves]

Initially, I was receptive to the “Trump-Putin collusion” stuff but became more skeptical over time as one theory after another got debunked and the Christopher Steele dossier was exposed as a fraud.

Dear Left-Bank,

Are you aware that Steele's main source, Igor Danchenko, is very probably a Russian intelligence agent? As James Angleton told the Church Committee (iirc), "A double agent will tell you 98% truth and 2% lies, and really mess you up, boy" (or words to that effect).

Regardless, could you please tell me which of the following sections of the Steele Dossier have been debunked?

Thanks!

The following sections of the Steele Dossier describe how some allegations have been corroborated, while others remain unverified because they may be "untrue, unimportant or too sensitive." There are sometimes conflicting reports for or against their veracity, and, in some cases, there are discrepancies between sources and their allegations. (emphasis added)

1) Cultivation of Trump through time

2) Russian assistance to the 2016 Trump Campaign

3) Fake news and social media misinformation

4) Manafort’s and others’ cooperation with Russian efforts

5) Russian conversations confirmed

6) Kompromat and “Golden Showers” allegations

7) Role of the Agalarovs

8 ) Trump viewed as under Russian influence

9) Kremlin’s “Romanian” hackers and use of Wikileaks, and Trump campaign reaction

10) Timing of release of hacked emails

11) Manafort and kickback payments from Yanukovych

12) Page met with Rosneft officials

13) Brokerage of Rosneft privatization

14) Trump’s attempts to lift sanctions

15) Cohen and alleged Prague visit

16) Republican position on Russian conflict with Ukraine and related sanctions

17) Relations with Europe and NATO

18) Spy [Mikhail Kalugin, misspelled "Kulagin" in the Steele Dossier] withdrawn from Russian Embassy

19) Botnets and porn traffic by hackers

-- Wikipedia

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We now know that most of those theories from the 2016 election originated from Clinton campaign operatives who paid for oppo-research on Trump in 2016. They laundered false information from the Steele dossier through the Press.

Dear Left-Bank,

I know that the Clinton Campaign assumed the funding of Steele's research when the original funder, a Never-Trump Republican, no longer had use for it, but what's your source for claiming that Clinton Campaign operatives laundered false information from the Steele Dossier through the press?

What "false information"?

At worst, Trump’s campaign didn’t disapprove of the Russians spreading “dirt” about Hillary.

Since Robert Mueller conducted a narrow criminal investigation instead of what he was supposed to conduct -- a counterintelligence investigation -- and even at that he didn't "follow the money" -- how can you be so sure that, "At worst, Trumps's campaign didn't disapprove of the Russian's spreading "dirt" about Hillary"? (emphasis added)

Addendum:

Just for giggles, google the following names simultaneously: Stone Schlanger Caddy. When you do, you'll find that Roger Stone (who left Trump's Campaign in August 2015 and who had just met with Harley Schlanger of the anti-Globalist / pro-Russia Lyndon LaRouche organization right after Schlanger had returned from Moscow) told former Watergate attorney and JFKA CT Douglas Caddy in early 2016 that he had a "back channel to Trump."