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I see what you're trying to do Vlad.


It's ironic that you call me "Vlad," Left-Banksie, when you're the one who's been brainwashed by sixty-six years of KGB* disinformation (including but not limited to, oodles and gobs of KGB*-encouraged JFKA conspiracy theories), "active measures," and mole-based "Inside Man" / "Outside Man" strategic deception counterintelligence operations waged against us and our NATO allies.

*Today's SVR and FSB

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[T]he recently unredacted memo proves that it was true that JFK was concerned about the CIA "going rogue."


Was the memo written by JFK or by Schlessinger, Banksie?

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It's ironic that you call me "Vlad," Left-Banksie, when you're the one who's been brainwashed by sixty-six years of KGB* disinformation (including but not limited to, oodles and gobs of KGB*-encouraged JFKA conspiracy theories), "active measures," and mole-based "Inside Man" / "Outside Man" strategic deception counterintelligence operations waged against us and our NATO allies.

Given that you still believe in 2025 that Putin rigged the 2016 and 2024 US elections, there's nothing you can say to insult me  :D

The speculation that others were involved with JFK's assassination has far more substance than your theories about Putin propping up Trump.

The very first high level US official to speculate about CIA involvement with JFK’s assassination was his brother Robert Kennedy, who reportedly asked CIA director McCone if the CIA was involved during the immediate aftermath of the JFK assassination.

How rogue was the CIA in 1963 for RFK Sr. to seriously wonder if they were involved?

There’s no evidence that RFK’s speculation was influenced by the “KGB”.
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[Y]ou still believe in 2025 that Putin rigged the 2016 and 2024 US elections [...].

Left Banks,

Do you deny that "former" KGB officer Vladimir Putin originally just wanted Hillary to lose, and when more and more Republican candidates started dropping out of the race he decided that he wanted Trump to win? Do you deny that seventeen U.S. intelligence agencies determined after the election that Putin's professional Saint Petersburg trolls, his GRU and FSB hackers, and one oligarch in particular, Oleg Deripaska, had tried to help Trump win?

Do you deny that Hillary got three million more votes than Trump nationwide, but Trump "won" the Electoral College because he got a total of about 78,000 more votes than her in three critical "swing" states, Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, about which states Trump's campaign manager, pro-Russia Paul Manafort, had given Trump Campaign polling data and strategy to his GRU helper, Konstantin Kilimnik, who in turn gave it to Putin's oligarch Oleg Deripaska so that Putin's trolls could target certain voters in those states and encourage them to get off the couch and go vote for The Traitorous Orange Bird (rhymes with Xxxx)?

I voted for Hillary Clinton, Banksie.

For whom did you vote (if you voted at all)?

Pro-Putin anti-vaxxer Jill Stein, by any chance, who got more votes in two of those states than Trump got over Clinton in them?
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JFKA conspiracy theorists psychologically need to believe that a governmental agency, or rogue actors thereof, killed JFK.

Thoughts?

Feelings?

Borderline-hysterical rants?

Most any conspiracy theory tells a more interesting story than the truth, the most likely truth is that Oswald alone murdered JFK. Good stories work. They always have. They always will.

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I voted for Hillary Clinton, Banksie.

For whom did you vote (if you voted at all)?

Pro-Putin anti-vaxxer Jill Stein, by any chance, who got more votes in two of those states than Trump got over Clinton in them?

I too voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 fyi.

Initially, I was receptive to the “Trump-Putin collusion” stuff but became more skeptical over time as one theory after another got debunked and the Christopher Steele dossier was exposed as a fraud.

We now know that most of those theories from the 2016 election originated from Clinton campaign operatives who paid for oppo-research on Trump in 2016. They laundered false information from the Steele dossier through the Press.

The Mueller investigation did not find any conspiracy between Trump’s campaign and Russia. At worst, Trump’s campaign didn’t disapprove of the Russians spreading “dirt” about Hillary.

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