Marilyn Sitzman on JFK's Head Wound

[Royell Storing]

You mean the Parkland doctors who were so busy that they didn't turn JFK's body over or prop his upper torso upright so they could take a good look at the back of his head?

Those Parkland doctors?

      I am talking about No Parkland Dr seeing that Horrific (R) Temple Blow-Out Wound. And as technology advances and we get a better look at the Z Film, it is becoming apparent that what we are seeing mirrors "The 7th Voyage Of Sinbad" and the Cyclops CGI . Based on the Z Film, not only would the Parkland Dr's have seen that Massive (R) Temple Blow-Out, the entire (R) Rear Seat and (R) Side of the Limo would have been shower'd with massive amounts of blood/brain matter. The photos of the JFK Limo (R) backseat area show nothing even close to this.   

[Steve Barber]

      I am talking about No Parkland Dr seeing that Horrific (R) Temple Blow-Out Wound. And as technology advances and we get a better look at the Z Film, it is becoming apparent that what we are seeing mirrors "The 7th Voyage Of Sinbad" and the Cyclops CGI . Based on the Z Film, not only would the Parkland Dr's have seen that Massive (R) Temple Blow-Out, the entire (R) Rear Seat and (R) Side of the Limo would have been shower'd with massive amounts of blood/brain matter. The photos of the JFK Limo (R) backseat area show nothing even close to this.

  Hi Royell,

      Most people confuse the enormous skull flap (attached to scalp) hanging to the front of and somewhat above ear level-with a "wound".  Mrs. Kennedy described this detatched piece of skull as having the appearance of a "wedge"-or-it was the large fragment that flew right past her face that landed behind Mrs. Connally's seat, which we can see tumbling toward the floor in the Z film.  Either way...There was no massive temple wound depicted in the Z film, just the very large skull fragment covering the temple area.  (See attachment) 




   

[Royell Storing]

  Steve- I believe you are describing the same thing I am. That "Flap" autopsy photo you posted does cover the (R) Temple. The Zapruder Film shows a lot of blood/brain matter coming out of this Flap/Hole/Wound. As JFK is falling/tilting to his (L), the bright color of blood/brain matter is still coming out of  the (R) SIDE of his head. It's now easy to see with today's technology. My opinion is it's Bogus. NONE of the Parkland Dr's ever reported seeing this Horrific Wound.
  As an aside, what do you believe was the intended purpose of the autopsy photo you posted? Are we supposed to be seeing a neat little bullet hole in the top of the head/cowlick area? We can Not even judge the size of that Flap Wound due to the angle of the photo. What do you believe Dr Humes was trying to show us with this photo?   

[Steve Barber]

  Steve- I believe you are describing the same thing I am. That "Flap" autopsy photo you posted does cover the (R) Temple. The Zapruder Film shows a lot of blood/brain matter coming out of this Flap/Hole/Wound. As JFK is falling/tilting to his (L), the bright color of blood/brain matter is still coming out of  the (R) SIDE of his head. It's now easy to see with today's technology. My opinion is it's Bogus. NONE of the Parkland Dr's ever reported seeing this Horrific Wound.
  As an aside, what do you believe was the intended purpose of the autopsy photo you posted? Are we supposed to be seeing a neat little bullet hole in the top of the head/cowlick area? We can Not even judge the size of that Flap Wound due to the angle of the photo. What do you believe Dr Humes was trying to show us with this photo?   

  Hi Royell,

   I believe that the reason the Parkland doctors didn't see what we see in the Zapruder film as far as the skull flap, is because Mrs. Kennedy put that hanging flap back into place, and this is why we also don't see the flap in the top of the head, right superior profile, or "Stare of Death" photos.  These pictures were all taken prior to the autopsy.  Obviously, the skull flap in the autopsy photo I posted was taken during the autopsy, and either the skull flap was pulled open, or, it came loose and fell back down.  I am having a problem posting gifs, or I would post two very clear stabilized Zapruder film sequences of the fatal shot made by Gerda Dunckle, that show the flap very vividly.

[Jim Hawthorn]

There are too many overlapping threads here. So here is another overlap (from another thread):

The embalmer Thomas Evan Robinson:

"large gaping hole in back of head."
"smaller wound in right emple"



LNers: "Nah, he was mistaken, just like the many doctors at Parkland!"

Nurse Bowron:

"I saw that there was a massive amount of blood on the back seat and in order to find the cause I lifted his head and my fingers went into a large wound in the back of his head; I turned his head and seeing the size of the wound realized that I could not stop the bleeding. I turned his head back and saw an entry wound in the front of the throat,..."

Nah!

[Royell Storing]

  "large gaping hole in BACK OF HEAD" says it all. Nothing about the Top of head . ".....BACK OF HEAD". And that Basketball size Blood/Brain Matter Stain on the TOP of the JFK Limo Back Seat backs up the mortician's observation. And, Robinson makes mention of the FLAP WOUND in JFK' s (R) Temple Area being "Smaller" than the "...Gaping hole in BACK OF HEAD". This makes obvious how Large that Hole in the back of JFK's Head was.   

[Steve Barber]

There are too many overlapping threads here. So here is another overlap (from another thread):

The embalmer Thomas Evan Robinson:

"large gaping hole in back of head."
"smaller wound in right emple"



LNers: "Nah, he was mistaken, just like the many doctors at Parkland!"

Nurse Bowron:

"I saw that there was a massive amount of blood on the back seat and in order to find the cause I lifted his head and my fingers went into a large wound in the back of his head; I turned his head and seeing the size of the wound realized that I could not stop the bleeding. I turned his head back and saw an entry wound in the front of the throat,..."

Nah!

  Then the Nix, Muchmore and Zapruder films all are lying when they show the TOP of JFK's head flying through the air, up and forward to the southwest of the car, and not one of them-nor the Mary Ann Moorman-Krahmer Polaroid photo-show a "Large gaping wound in the back of the head", but the Zapruder and Nix films, plus the Moorman Krahmer Polaroid all show the top of JFK's head blown off.   Also in the Zapruder film- one large fragment of skull flies off the head right in front of Mrs. Kennedy's face, lands on-bounces off the top of Nellie Connally's seat-and all is captured in the Zapruder film, falling straight down to the floor, where it was documented by Samuel Kinney as being picked up and turned in to Washingtog D.C. the night of the assassination.  This, along with three other skull fragments one found in the street by Seymour Weitzman,two in the grass, one by David Burros, and the other the infamous "Harper  fragment. All documented, and turned in.  All found several yards ahead of the car at the time of the fatal shot to the head.  On top of this, Mrs. Kennedy-within 7 days of the assassination-was interviewed by LIFE Magazine writer (because she trusted him- HER words) and hraphically described the head wound as being on top of the head.  "I was trying to hold the top of his head down. Maybe I could keep his brains in".  She said this to White, twice.  She also said she was admiring his brain, saying how beautiful it was.  He was face up in her lap.  Any wound on the back of his head would'nt have been exposed to her.   Nurse Bowron is nothing but appealing to conspiracy buffs and authors, because no such "Large , gaping hole" was on the back of JFK's head.  Photographs taken in DP, eyewitnesses who saw it from only feet away all placed their hands to the FRONT of the head, not the rear, with the exception of Bev Oliver-and she jumped onto the conspiracy bandwagon to become  famous, just like a lot of other people have. Chuck Brehm stated that he "Saw the top of his head fly off" on video, to a reporter in DP during the 30th anniversary.   Now, from all the evidence I just pointed out, it was the top of JFK's head that was blown off-not the rear of the head. 

[Royell Storing]

  Steve - Maybe you are looking at more detailed assassination films than I am. I do Not see much of what you describe. I also find it difficult to picture Jackie holding the top of JFK's head on and also tucking that Temple Flap Wound back in while the JFK Limo is hell bent for Parkland. Robinson the Embalmer offers very compelling Hands On Information/Facts.  "Large gaping hole in the BACK of the Head". He would know. He patched that HOLE. I also like his noting the BACK Wound. "5-6 inches BELOW the shoulder". "to the right of the back bone". In a court of law, this witness would be dynamite.